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TallEng's Modelling musing

Started by TallEng, April 20, 2020, 08:55:41 PM

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TallEng

Well that's work done for another two weeks.  <_<
Ordered and received, some British airways Cargo and the special red square A319 transfers from the aviation Mega store, also 3 Special Hobby Meteor NF.12's from their 50% off sale.
I think I missed the NF.14 earlier on in the sale, But seem to remember that wasn't such a bargain.

Really ought to finish the Lightning and Hunter(s) that are nearly there... (or cluttering up my work bench still)

But one is rather distracted by the thoughts of what to do with the NF.12's
Real world most likely, but I remembered that some of the RAuxAF Sqn's were  briefly
Equipped with Mosquito NF.30's for about 18 months, when they were reactivated after
The End of the Second World War. Now I'm sure you can see where this is going...
It's a relatively simple airframe, so the maintenance and flying shouldn't be a problem.
 I suspect the radar maybe more of a challenge to maintain (possibly need help from a full time unit)
The only real fly in the ointment to my mind is that in the real world only about 100 NF.12's were produced,
As against over 300 NF.11's
But I'm sure I'll think of something. :wacko:

Regards
Keith
The British have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved". Soon though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross". Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross" since the Blitz in 1940 when tea supplies ran out for three weeks

PR19_Kit

This is WhiffWorld, you can have your version of Armstrong-Whitworth build as many NF12s as you like.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

TallEng

#107
Ah yes, procrastinating, or research as I prefer to call it ;D
I did prep the resin bombs and associated pylons for the Lightning, but didn't paint them...
I looked at the sidewinders for the Hunter, but didn't paint them (I hate painting white, it's too see through)
I did however do some research for a possible RAuxAF Meteor NF.12, didn't learn much about the Radar type fitted
Only that it was "better" than that fitted to the NF.11, but no quantity of betterness. Was it "a bit better" or "much better" or possibly
"Miles better"  ;D
RAuxAF Sqn's who's used Mosquito NF.30 (all be it briefly) and therefore possible Meteor NF.12 users are:
500, 502, 504, 605, 608, 609 and 616Sqn's of which I know of Decals for 500, 609 and 616.
 616Sqn being particularly interesting as they first took the Meteor into battle at the end of WWII.
Anyway it was spare serial numbers I was mainly looking for, but appears that the RAF received  the exact amount of NF.12/14's that It originally ordered. The only gaps being those 'normal' ones that appear in the batches. As in 200 aircraft ordered in the serial range WS590-WS848, which if you follow consecutively gives a grand total of 258, but because they  leave those little gaps only ends up at 200 all told.
I wonder why? it's an awful lot of wasted serials over the years.
Anyway luckily for me there's a cancelled batch of (250) Meteor F.8's (WS230-WS558) which immediately precedes the NF.12/14 serial numbers. Intriguingly, one of those "available" serials is WS500, which would make a jolly fine serial number for the C.O's aircraft of 500Sqn, which was arguably one of the most colourful of the RAuxAF meteors to be seen,
Weather the full colour tail markings would transfer to a NF.12 remains to be thought about.
Food for thought me thinks.

Regards
Keith
The British have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved". Soon though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross". Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross" since the Blitz in 1940 when tea supplies ran out for three weeks

The Wooksta!

All the RAuxAF units that got Mosquito NF30s were originally intended to have Mosquito bombers, either B.16, B.25 or B.35s, as a light striking force.  Until Fighter Command thew their toys out of the pram and they got fighters instead.
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Quote from: TallEng on December 05, 2022, 02:42:49 PMAnyway luckily for me there's a cancelled batch of (250) Meteor F.8's (WS230-WS558) which immediately precedes the NF.12/14 serial numbers. Intriguingly, one of those "available" serials is WS500, which would make a jolly fine serial number for the C.O's aircraft of 500Sqn, which was arguably one of the most colourful of the RAuxAF meteors to be seen,
Weather the full colour tail markings would transfer to a NF.12 remains to be thought about.
Food for thought me thinks.

Regards
Keith


Sounds like a great idea to me and the 500 Squadron markings are available on the new Airfix F.8 as well  :thumbsup:

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

TallEng

Last entry before christmas me thinks.
And probably the last bit of modelling done before the new year :rolleyes:
So I finally got some green paint on the Lightnings Bombs <_<
I just need to paint the pylons and glue them on, finish of the ejection seat/cockpit and
it will be finished, except I was wondering about fitting the wing pylons that where developed
for the Saudi? Lightnings but I can`t find a suitable drawing of them, does anybody Know where
I can find a drawing?
I've also been having trouble with the transfers on My Hunter T.7, My fault as I didn't gloss varnish The
high speed silver before I started :banghead:  Any way its now been varnished with silky finish varnish as I
have no Gloss :rolleyes:  I also Painted the fin and spine of the T.7 and F.6 Xtracolour PR Pink :o
Why? well for the F.6 its as undercoat for the Orangy yellow I'll be applying on top of that. The T.7 however
is going to be joining the RAF Akrotiri Station flight...
I have also been sorely tempted by Special Hobby's 50% off Meteorfest and now have 3 Meteor NF.14's
and one NF.11 joining the stash shortly.
One of the NF.14's will be converted into a T.7(modified) The rough idea being that Public opinion, Glosters and the RAF
are very concerned about the High Accident rate the the Meteors particularly the T.7 suffered from. So Gloster still busy with
the Javelin etc task Armstrong-Whitworth to take a Look at the T.7 with a view to improving it.
So it gets the F.8 tail, ejection seats with the NF.14 canopy and the wing tip tanks of the private venture T.7 that Glosters flew for a while.
With the idea that the RAF's T.7s could be converted to the above standard and a few new builds sold as well.
I think thats all the Mods that I have in mind, hopefully I'll start the build in the new year :thumbsup: (and maybe work on a better backstory too...)
If anybodies interested in the Meteorfest it lasts untill the 18th of december.

Regards
Keith
The British have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved". Soon though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross". Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross" since the Blitz in 1940 when tea supplies ran out for three weeks

Pellson

Quote from: TallEng on December 17, 2022, 04:07:09 AMOne of the NF.14's will be converted into a T.7(modified) The rough idea being that Public opinion, Glosters and the RAF
are very concerned about the High Accident rate the the Meteors particularly the T.7 suffered from. So Gloster still busy with
the Javelin etc task Armstrong-Whitworth to take a Look at the T.7 with a view to improving it.
So it gets the F.8 tail, ejection seats with the NF.14 canopy and the wing tip tanks of the private venture T.7 that Glosters flew for a while.
With the idea that the RAF's T.7s could be converted to the above standard and a few new builds sold as well.

Good storyline there!  :thumbsup:
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

TallEng

Quote from: Pellson on December 22, 2022, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: TallEng on December 17, 2022, 04:07:09 AMOne of the NF.14's will be converted into a T.7(modified) The rough idea being that Public opinion, Glosters and the RAF
are very concerned about the High Accident rate the the Meteors particularly the T.7 suffered from. So Gloster still busy with
the Javelin etc task Armstrong-Whitworth to take a Look at the T.7 with a view to improving it.
So it gets the F.8 tail, ejection seats with the NF.14 canopy and the wing tip tanks of the private venture T.7 that Glosters flew for a while.
With the idea that the RAF's T.7s could be converted to the above standard and a few new builds sold as well.

Good storyline there!  :thumbsup:
Quote from: Pellson on December 22, 2022, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: TallEng on December 17, 2022, 04:07:09 AMOne of the NF.14's will be converted into a T.7(modified) The rough idea being that Public opinion, Glosters and the RAF
are very concerned about the High Accident rate the the Meteors particularly the T.7 suffered from. So Gloster still busy with
the Javelin etc task Armstrong-Whitworth to take a Look at the T.7 with a view to improving it.
So it gets the F.8 tail, ejection seats with the NF.14 canopy and the wing tip tanks of the private venture T.7 that Glosters flew for a while.
With the idea that the RAF's T.7s could be converted to the above standard and a few new builds sold as well.

Good storyline there!  :thumbsup:

Thanks Pellson ;D  however shortly after I wrote it down I knew it didn't sound as good and plausible as
it had in my head  :o  if you see what I mean...
(and you really wouldn't want to be in my head :o , so much Sawdust... and as somebody once said, if brains were dynamite I wouldn't have enough to blow my nose  ;D )

Anyway we are in the England for a real special family Christmas (Dads 90th Birthday celebrations yesterday) and we've managed
to get (most) of my Brothers, Sisters, Wifes and Husbands/Significant Other etc in for that Celebration and I'll be cooking
Christmas dinner for them all with help from my Little Sister, my Daughters and my Wife.....
How could that possibly go wrong?....
(Its about 16 all told, which is a bit of a ramp up from cooking for me und Frau Talleng) However, I'm sure I'll be able to
snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory  ;)
Oh and whilst in The England I took advantage of the much cheaper postage rate and added to my Decal/Transfer stash
with an Xtradecal Lightning sheet for T-birds (Including the pink finned Akrotiri one) ;) in the one true scale, and 2 Xtradecal
sheets for the Vampire in 1/48th, because what is only Vampire sized in 1/48th makes a fairly reasonable stab at being suitable for all manner
of Meteors, Hunters, Javelins and Vixens in the one true scale...

With festive apologies for my random use of punctuation.
( I could read the Hind legs of a Donkey, and possibly talk him into going for a walk afterwards);
But I can't punctuate to save my life. A fact that confused my English teachers no end. :unsure:
So with that, I'll wish you Merry Christmas and a Happy New year, Oder: frohe weihnachten und einen guten rutsch ins neue jahr

Regards
Keith
The British have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved". Soon though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross". Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross" since the Blitz in 1940 when tea supplies ran out for three weeks

Rheged

Quote from: TallEng on December 22, 2022, 03:38:47 PMWith festive apologies for my random use of punctuation.
( I could read the Hind legs of a Donkey, and possibly talk him into going for a walk afterwards);
But I can't punctuate to save my life. A fact that confused my English teachers no end. :unsure:
Regards
Keith


Don't worry about idiosyncratic (good word!)  punctuation.  Language is there purely as a means of communication, and you communicated your message perfectly acceptably.

As  for talking/writing/reading both hind legs off a donkey and then persuading it to run a marathon.........well............... Isn't that exactly what our various backstories do all the time?

An unfraught  Christmas  dinner to you all.............If you are cooking, I hope someone else will wash up.................and a peaceful, mildly liquid and styrene filled New Year.
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

Pellson

Quote from: TallEng on December 22, 2022, 03:38:47 PM
Quote from: Pellson on December 22, 2022, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: TallEng on December 17, 2022, 04:07:09 AMOne of the NF.14's will be converted into a T.7(modified) The rough idea being that Public opinion, Glosters and the RAF
are very concerned about the High Accident rate the the Meteors particularly the T.7 suffered from. So Gloster still busy with
the Javelin etc task Armstrong-Whitworth to take a Look at the T.7 with a view to improving it.
So it gets the F.8 tail, ejection seats with the NF.14 canopy and the wing tip tanks of the private venture T.7 that Glosters flew for a while.
With the idea that the RAF's T.7s could be converted to the above standard and a few new builds sold as well.

Good storyline there!  :thumbsup:
Quote from: Pellson on December 22, 2022, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: TallEng on December 17, 2022, 04:07:09 AMOne of the NF.14's will be converted into a T.7(modified) The rough idea being that Public opinion, Glosters and the RAF
are very concerned about the High Accident rate the the Meteors particularly the T.7 suffered from. So Gloster still busy with
the Javelin etc task Armstrong-Whitworth to take a Look at the T.7 with a view to improving it.
So it gets the F.8 tail, ejection seats with the NF.14 canopy and the wing tip tanks of the private venture T.7 that Glosters flew for a while.
With the idea that the RAF's T.7s could be converted to the above standard and a few new builds sold as well.

Good storyline there!  :thumbsup:

Thanks Pellson ;D  however shortly after I wrote it down I knew it didn't sound as good and plausible as
it had in my head  :o  if you see what I mean...
(and you really wouldn't want to be in my head :o , so much Sawdust... and as somebody once said, if brains were dynamite I wouldn't have enough to blow my nose  ;D )

Anyway we are in the England for a real special family Christmas (Dads 90th Birthday celebrations yesterday) and we've managed
to get (most) of my Brothers, Sisters, Wifes and Husbands/Significant Other etc in for that Celebration and I'll be cooking
Christmas dinner for them all with help from my Little Sister, my Daughters and my Wife.....
How could that possibly go wrong?....
(Its about 16 all told, which is a bit of a ramp up from cooking for me und Frau Talleng) However, I'm sure I'll be able to
snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory  ;)
Oh and whilst in The England I took advantage of the much cheaper postage rate and added to my Decal/Transfer stash
with an Xtradecal Lightning sheet for T-birds (Including the pink finned Akrotiri one) ;) in the one true scale, and 2 Xtradecal
sheets for the Vampire in 1/48th, because what is only Vampire sized in 1/48th makes a fairly reasonable stab at being suitable for all manner
of Meteors, Hunters, Javelins and Vixens in the one true scale...

With festive apologies for my random use of punctuation.
( I could read the Hind legs of a Donkey, and possibly talk him into going for a walk afterwards);
But I can't punctuate to save my life. A fact that confused my English teachers no end. :unsure:
So with that, I'll wish you Merry Christmas and a Happy New year, Oder: frohe weihnachten und einen guten rutsch ins neue jahr

Regards
Keith


I still think the basic storyline is good. If you want some input/assistance in developing it, I would be honoured to offer my assistance as would, I would guess Mr Rheged. Just let us know.  ;)
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Rheged

Quote from: Pellson on December 28, 2022, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: TallEng on December 22, 2022, 03:38:47 PM
Quote from: Pellson on December 22, 2022, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: TallEng on December 17, 2022, 04:07:09 AMOne of the NF.14's will be converted into a T.7(modified) The rough idea being that Public opinion, Glosters and the RAF
are very concerned about the High Accident rate the the Meteors particularly the T.7 suffered from. So Gloster still busy with
the Javelin etc task Armstrong-Whitworth to take a Look at the T.7 with a view to improving it.
So it gets the F.8 tail, ejection seats with the NF.14 canopy and the wing tip tanks of the private venture T.7 that Glosters flew for a while.
With the idea that the RAF's T.7s could be converted to the above standard and a few new builds sold as well.

Good storyline there!  :thumbsup:
Quote from: Pellson on December 22, 2022, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: TallEng on December 17, 2022, 04:07:09 AMOne of the NF.14's will be converted into a T.7(modified) The rough idea being that Public opinion, Glosters and the RAF
are very concerned about the High Accident rate the the Meteors particularly the T.7 suffered from. So Gloster still busy with
the Javelin etc task Armstrong-Whitworth to take a Look at the T.7 with a view to improving it.
So it gets the F.8 tail, ejection seats with the NF.14 canopy and the wing tip tanks of the private venture T.7 that Glosters flew for a while.
With the idea that the RAF's T.7s could be converted to the above standard and a few new builds sold as well.

Good storyline there!  :thumbsup:

Thanks Pellson ;D  however shortly after I wrote it down I knew it didn't sound as good and plausible as
it had in my head  :o  if you see what I mean...
(and you really wouldn't want to be in my head :o , so much Sawdust... and as somebody once said, if brains were dynamite I wouldn't have enough to blow my nose  ;D )

Anyway we are in the England for a real special family Christmas (Dads 90th Birthday celebrations yesterday) and we've managed
to get (most) of my Brothers, Sisters, Wifes and Husbands/Significant Other etc in for that Celebration and I'll be cooking
Christmas dinner for them all with help from my Little Sister, my Daughters and my Wife.....
How could that possibly go wrong?....
(Its about 16 all told, which is a bit of a ramp up from cooking for me und Frau Talleng) However, I'm sure I'll be able to
snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory  ;)
Oh and whilst in The England I took advantage of the much cheaper postage rate and added to my Decal/Transfer stash
with an Xtradecal Lightning sheet for T-birds (Including the pink finned Akrotiri one) ;) in the one true scale, and 2 Xtradecal
sheets for the Vampire in 1/48th, because what is only Vampire sized in 1/48th makes a fairly reasonable stab at being suitable for all manner
of Meteors, Hunters, Javelins and Vixens in the one true scale...

With festive apologies for my random use of punctuation.
( I could read the Hind legs of a Donkey, and possibly talk him into going for a walk afterwards);
But I can't punctuate to save my life. A fact that confused my English teachers no end. :unsure:
So with that, I'll wish you Merry Christmas and a Happy New year, Oder: frohe weihnachten und einen guten rutsch ins neue jahr

Regards
Keith


I still think the basic storyline is good. If you want some input/assistance in developing it, I would be honoured to offer my assistance as would, I would guess Mr Rheged. Just let us know.  ;)

I would, of course, be delighted to help but reading through your ideas, I don't think you need me to interfere.................you are doing a perfectly satisfactory job without any help.
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

Pellson

Quote from: Rheged on December 28, 2022, 11:30:49 AMI would, of course, be delighted to help but reading through your ideas, I don't think you need me to interfere.................you are doing a perfectly satisfactory job without any help.

Agree. That said, from time to time, some sparring or bouncing ideas has helped me much.
Thanks for being there, mr R.  ;)
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!