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Fleet air arm Griffon Seastang

Started by chrisonord, August 12, 2020, 10:06:54 AM

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kitbasher

#15
It's not Fleet Air Airm and its not got a Griffon, but a Seastang of a slightly different flavour has appeared at https://modelingmadness.com/review/allies/us/usn/fighters/ohss.htm
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PR19_Kit

I like the look of that, and his thinking is pretty logical too.  :thumbsup:

I'd have used a contra-prop though, that Griffon has a LOT of torque, as our FAA found out......
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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zenrat

#17
Hmmmm, I took this pic at Expo on Sunday.  As we know there are is such thing as coincidence...

Model Expo 2022 - 61 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

comrade harps

Quote from: zenrat on June 21, 2022, 04:09:01 AM
Hmmmm, I took this pic at Expo on Sunday.  As we know there are is such thing as coincidence...

Model Expo 2022 - 61 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr

You beat me to it whilst I was getting the photo's url  ;)
Whatever.

Wardukw

I agree with Kit..contra rotating propellers would look so good on that beast  ;D
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Had 2 half built in 48the scale. I tossed them out s part of the purge earlier this year. Another regret but somat had to be done.....
stang by Todd Pomerleau, on Flickr
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CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?


JayBee

#23
I built this one some years ago, but the original post on here appears to have vanished into the mists of time.

The contra-prop was from Aeroclub, and being white metal helped with the need for nose weight.





The Fleet Air Arm recognised a winner when they saw one and ordered an initial batch of six hooked P-51D's for training, these were given the name Sea Mustang I.
This was followed by a large order for fully navalised machines approximately 50/50 fighter, and fighter reconaisance.
These were to be called Sea Mustangs II & III.
However their Lordships at the Admiralty did not like the name. I mean, a SEA HORSE, does not give the right impression.
Then Rear Vice Admiral Tarquin Mandelbrot McPhail, The Lord Auchenshugle, suggested a name from Celtic folklore that was accepted by all  -  KELPIE.
(This is where you now go into Wikipedia and find out what a Kelpie is. JayBee)
The next version had a RR Griffon engine driving a five bladed prop, and to assist in counteracting the extra torque the rudder was increased in height.
These were the Kelpie IV and V respectively.
( Note: North American later used the same shape to increase the rear vertical area, but they extended the fin, not the rudder as in the Kelpie).
The final versions were the Kelpie F-6 and FR-7.
These had contra rotating props and tricyle undercarriage.

At the time of the Suez crisis (Operation Musketeer) there were three Kelpie FR-7's still in the operational inventory, and they were embarked on HMS Eagle.
One was used as a spares source, so only two flew in the campaign.
One of these was so badly damaged that the pilot was unable to land on and had to 'take to the silk' being recovered safely.
The final survivor carried out several more operational sorties, but was retired soon afterwards.
She is now undergoing restoration for static display at the FAA Museum at RNAS Yeovilton.
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zenrat

Quote from: JayBee on June 23, 2022, 03:50:23 AM
...Then Rear Vice Admiral Tarquin Mandelbrot McPhail, The Lord Auchenshugle, suggested a name from Celtic folklore that was accepted by all  -  KELPIE.
(This is where you now go into Wikipedia and find out what a Kelpie is. JayBee)...

A Kelpie is an Australian Cattle Dog.   ;D :mellow:



Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

JayBee

Quote from: zenrat on June 23, 2022, 03:58:40 AM
Quote from: JayBee on June 23, 2022, 03:50:23 AM
...Then Rear Vice Admiral Tarquin Mandelbrot McPhail, The Lord Auchenshugle, suggested a name from Celtic folklore that was accepted by all  -  KELPIE.
(This is where you now go into Wikipedia and find out what a Kelpie is. JayBee)...

A Kelpie is an Australian Cattle Dog.   ;D :mellow:



In old Scottish folklore a Kelpie is a much nastier beastie.
Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

kitnut617

I've had some serious thinking time of a FAA Twin Mustang, I got most of my design sorted -- in my head that is. I'll base it on this below where I used a Firefly Mk.V cowling, which fitted almost as if it was designed to go there in real life.



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