Evan's Fw 119 twin-boomer

[Tophe]

Tophe, you missed my point!  
I meant using B-29 kits to do the first Evan Fw 119 you made.  Not a super monster plane from Hell!

Sorry, Ollie...  
But this misunderstanding has been wonderful for me , and with your words and my wrong reading, a funny creation happened. And I love it.
Thanks again !  

[elmayerle]

Oh, the doubled V-1710 did happen as the W-3420 in the XP-75/XP-75A and the XB-39.  I rather suspect that if the R-3350 had suffered much more in the way of development problems, the USAAF would've replaced the B-29 with the B-39.  As far as I know, the W-3420 was the only coupled engine to be successfully developed and flight tested.

My archives are different. I do not pretend like JMNs that I own The Truth, but just know what I have read in books :
* Allison V-3420 = V-1710*2 : P-75, XP-58, XP-67 variant, Mc Donnell model 1 variant, XB-19 variant, B-29 variant
* Rolls-Royce Vulture = Peregrine*2 : Manchester (mass-produced), Blackburn B20, Warwick variant, Hawker Tornado variant
* Daimler-Benz DB.606/610 = DB.603/605 *2 : Heinkel 177 (mass-produced), Fw 191 and Heinkel 119 variants (this is precisely our subject here !), Messerschmitt 261, Junkers 288, Japanese R2Y Keiun & Ki 64 Rob
* Hispano-Suiza 24 = HS 12 *2 : Matra R100 twin-boomer etc.
* Engines in tandem mounted by the aircraft manufactuerer (not the engine company creating a double one) : Bolkhovitinov S and twin-boom I, Beriev B-20, Polikarpov SI, etc.

So... maybe the 3420 (V or W ?) was the only US coupled engine, but not the only one in the World. Am I wrong, just dreaming of what might have been ?

You misunderstand me, I don't claim the W-3420 to be the only one; but from all I've read, the design was debugged to the point that it could've been an operationally reliable engine if used, which most of those other ones were not.  I know that the German and Japanese coupled engines were not that reliable, even when used in production aircraft, and the Vulture certainly wasn't.

I apologize for any confusion my previous message might have caused.

[Tophe]

I apologize for any confusion my previous message might have caused.

I am the one that must apologize, for my misunderstanding... misreading, not fluent enough in speaking English, sorry...  

[Ollie]

Wooksta, one word : Scale-o-Rama.  1/144 B-29 = 1/72 Me 264.  Anyways, I'm not interested in it and 90$ is too much for a 1/72 kit.

[Tophe]

* Engines in tandem

On the same subject, here is an asymetric twin-boomer which may be rather well-balanced, with coupled engine on port and pilot+engine on starboard...
I explain that (as BiP-2/3' drawing) on my site
http://cmeunier.chez.tiscali.fr/asym_dahu_aeroUK.htm
The source is a fake Heller box of (symetrical twin-engined) double-Caudron-C714 by Nicolas Pug, artist  

[Tophe]

As for the F-104Z topic, I needed to edit this old topic, as required by a friend. But for that, I needed to post something, and it would be too bad to post a reply "(nothing to say, sorry)". So... I must bring something again to explain the Fw 119 twin-boom mystery...
Fw 119 is a very old RLM code, far before the Fw 189 project of 1937... so before my 1939-45 window. Well, this could have been a pre-189, for instance without engines yet. A reco glider...
It was rejected, of course: as reconnaissance is needed over the enemy territory or battlefield, where to land? and how to escape from the opponent fighters? Closed file, 1937, leading to the powered 189.
Though, with the progress in rockets (early 1940s), this Fw 119 came to life again, as Fw 119U: take off as an airplane with 2 rockets working among the 8 below the wing, then climbing again and again firing the other rockets, 2 by 2, up to 20 miles altitude (32 000m), out of reach for any fighter 1943... then gliding quietly over Russia, Siberia,  taking pictures, to land safely in Japan... A change in detail was requested, and it was mass-produced as Fw 119U-2 and the Soviet developed missiles to reach this spy... and they developed the Myasishchev Stratosfera with the same twin-boom & huge-span. Or... do my ill brains mix several stories?

PS. This topic would be better moved to the twin-tail forum, yes?