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Mirage III, Mirage V, Nesher, Dagger, and Kfir

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glorious.tachikoma

Quote from: Tophe on April 06, 2022, 10:01:11 PM
Quote from: glorious.tachikoma on April 06, 2022, 09:56:40 PM
I'm trying to decide how much work LERX's would be
a leading-edge root extension (LERX) on Mirage-like bird? Good idea, I may draw it on my usual Mirage 5, thanks! :thumbsup: ;D

Well Dassault themselves did it on the Mirage-III NG, but that would require applying plastic and filler over three separate pieces on the fuselage and I want to be able to reproduce these parts.

Tophe

You are right about the IIING, I had forgotten.
While... I may try to have bigger LERX, F-16-like, lengthening the fuselage or something. Maybe. Thanks anyway. :thumbsup:
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

glorious.tachikoma

Quote from: Tophe on April 06, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
You are right about the IIING, I had forgotten.
While... I may try to have bigger LERX, F-16-like, lengthening the fuselage or something. Maybe. Thanks anyway. :thumbsup:

I can see that working, but the danger with lengthening the fuselage is the only place that "makes sense" is a plug ahead of the center of lift, and that exacerbates the problem and one gets into a circuitous battle with adding weight and lift, unless you can also cook-up a clean way of putting canards on the intakes that are proportional to the Gripen's. That thing probably has the largest canard/wing ratio of any aircraft ever made.

Tophe

Thanks engineer, but you know: I am just a dreamer, no problem if that would not work in the true world, this is a nice dream, which is enough for me ;)
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

Tophe

Quote from: Tophe on April 06, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
You are right about the IIING, I had forgotten.
While... I may try to have bigger LERX, F-16-like, lengthening the fuselage or something. Maybe. Thanks anyway. :thumbsup:
And here they are! : <_<

= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Mirage8_az.jpg

Thanks again glorious.tachikoma, you are glorious indeed! ;)
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

Tophe

Inspired by what I made on the F-16, I do the same on Mirage, becoming twin-boom step by step: <_<


= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Mirage8_ba.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Mirage8_bc.jpg
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

Tophe

Thanks to perttime, I have discovered the creator Tomzoo on DeviantArt and I have felt inspired: <_<

= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Mirage8_be.jpg
(no big radar in the Mirage 5 nose, different fom IIIE/IIIC, so this thin concave nose is perfect)
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DogfighterZen

The IIING was the inspiration for my 5PL...  :mellow:

"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

Tophe

[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

DogfighterZen

Thanks, Tophe.  :thumbsup:
The Mirage IIING w my favorite variant if the delta Mirage family and i will be building more of them.
"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

Tophe

Great project, like a whole fleet of Mirage NG! :thumbsup: (with it, Portugal would become the Master of the World for sure)
Will you dare pushing the NG family far in the what-if direction? :unsure:

= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Mirage8_bg.jpg
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

DogfighterZen

Quote from: Tophe on May 11, 2022, 09:19:29 PM
Great project, like a whole fleet of Mirage NG! :thumbsup: (with it, Portugal would become the Master of the World for sure)

;D :thumbsup:

Quote from: Tophe on May 11, 2022, 09:19:29 PM
Will you dare pushing the NG family far in the what-if direction? :unsure:

= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Mirage8_bg.jpg

Sorry, Tophe. No Zwillings for me, not my type of design. They'll all be what-if but not like that. The top one on your drawing somehow reminded me of the Buck Rogers Starfighter...  :mellow:
"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

Tophe

Thanks!
And no problem for your preferring single Mirages. Will you try this other way (below)? ;)

= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Mirage8_bh.jpg
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

perttime

Those are approaching F-117 levels of ... er ... aesthetics  ;D

Tophe

[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]