Italeri

[Supertom]

I don't think anyone noticed the thread, but if you look on Italeri's site, they're repopping their much-maligned Su-32/34 kit with updated decals of three production aircraft (sans the recent off-black scheme). What's interesting, however, is scheme #4:



I looked this up: as far as I know, DRDO (Defense Research and Development Organization - IDRW is actually a web defense magazine) is not evaluating the Fullback, but India had considered the Fullback as an electronic warfare platform. So either as a bomber or EW bird, we have a what-if option here!

PS - article on the EW proposal - http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/russia-to-begin-receiving-su34-longrange-strike-fighters-02595/

[zenrat]

What's wrong with the Italeri Fullback?  I've got the Tamiya boxing on back-order with HLJ.
If it's just JMN niggles about accuracy I can live with that.  As long as it fits together OK.

[Librarian]

What's wrong with the Italeri Fullback?  I've got the Tamiya boxing on back-order with HLJ.
If it's just JMN niggles about accuracy I can live with that.  As long as it fits together OK.

Hit the nail on the head...up against the wall with them!!

[Old Wombat]

What's wrong with the Italeri Fullback?  I've got the Tamiya boxing on back-order with HLJ.
If it's just JMN niggles about accuracy I can live with that.  As long as it fits together OK.

Hit the nail on the head...up against the wall with them!!

Come the Revolution, Brother!

[Thorvic]

What's wrong with the Italeri Fullback?  I've got the Tamiya boxing on back-order with HLJ.
If it's just JMN niggles about accuracy I can live with that.  As long as it fits together OK.

It's based on the intelligence of the period without a good chance to access the drawings or measure it in person, its also based on the original airframe demonstrators rather than the actual production aircraft now being used by the Russian Air Force. Ken Duffy is probably the best one to consult if you find his Flankerman website as he will have identified the flaws and fixed them.

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/modl_su-34.html

Trumpeter are doing a new one in 72nd which should be out this month or so, Hobbyboss have done it in 48th but haven't got that nose shape right apparently

[zenrat]

Perfect whiff fodder then!

Thanks folks.  I don't get the urge to do modern jets very often but for some reason the Fullback appeals to me.
Hopefully HLJ come through and get more in at the nice low price they were knocking them out at.  Failing that, a new Trumpeter 1/72 version, if it gets the "experts" approval should mean cheap Italeri and Tamiya versions on Evil-Bay.
Hopefully.
Fingers crossed.

[Snowtrooper]

I don't get the urge to do modern jets very often but for some reason the Fullback appeals to me.

A fighter with a galley and toilet tends to do that Been pondering (not enough to add one to The Stash) that maybe it would be a good executive jet for very busy executives  traveling perhaps to regions where you might have to be prepared for "aggressive negotiations".

Then again, what is Zenrat Industries doing in the 21st century?

[NARSES2]

Hit the nail on the head...up against the wall with them!!

Come the Revolution, Brother!
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Think I was in the pub and missed it 

[zenrat]

I don't get the urge to do modern jets very often but for some reason the Fullback appeals to me.

A fighter with a galley and toilet tends to do that Been pondering (not enough to add one to The Stash) that maybe it would be a good executive jet for very busy executives  traveling perhaps to regions where you might have to be prepared for "aggressive negotiations".

Then again, what is Zenrat Industries doing in the 21st century?

You know I was just looking at the profile pics at the top of the page thinking "if you cut there and slide that bit back to there and then add some seats and windows...".
Of course the PDRV Republican Guard would operate Fullbacks.
In the 21st Century zenrat industries continues to do what it did in the 19th and 20th...
The Turbocat and D9 dozer on my bench are both 21st Century zi affiliated builds

[Thorvic]

http://www.italeri.com/imgup/Preview%202017_LR(1).pdf

Well Italeri have put a mini catalogue of their planned 2017 releases, most appear to be re-releases or adaptions in some form or another and carry overs from last years lists.

Seems to be a big Swiss interest this year with 7 aircraft with Swiss Air Force decals, looks like some of Supermodel stuff is back out too and possibly but new tools look somewhat sparse with what looks to be a P-47 Thunderbolt, the CSAR Italian Merlin is still coming (Handy as it has the pointy nose for the Danish and the HC-3i  versions), looks like a Martin B-57B Canberra and that's sadly about it. Large scale there is the Tornado GR4 and F-35A in 32nd, probably nice but way not my scale  72nd Armour is Esci re-pops, 35th Armour is a mixed bag too as they have some of their effort wasted on 1/56th stuff as well now  .

Interesting one is the S-38 S-Boote, as they realised that this was the more common variant and the one that was actually camouflaged to give all those interesting schemes. Some also got Armoured Bridge more associated with the S-100 class so those into their 1/35th MTBs will be happy. Of note is another secret item in the same group but we may have to await news on that.  A shame really as Italeri originally intended doing their MAS boat in 72nd and these could have expanded into a range of interesting and affordable MTBs, but 1/35th got the amour builders or R/C crowd interested so now diorama or working models rather now.

All in all nothing there exciting or of real interest to me, the re-pops will please some, especially on items that are not so easy to find any more, and the larger scale builds will be happy 

Kinda puts in perspective just how lucky we are with Airfix focusing on new tools or revised versions of their new tools rather than being virtually reliant on rehashing their older kit back catalogue or re-boxing someone else's kits !!!

[Snowtrooper]

they have some of their effort wasted on 1/56th stuff as well now 

1/56th? Gee, I wonder if this has anything to do with Revell starting to distribute Games Workshop's older tool Warhammer 40,000 range and the 40K community's eternal quest for cheap proxy models, the scale of 40K being pretty much exactly 1/56...

[Thorvic]

they have some of their effort wasted on 1/56th stuff as well now 

1/56th? Gee, I wonder if this has anything to do with Revell starting to distribute Games Workshop's older tool Warhammer 40,000 range and the 40K community's eternal quest for cheap proxy models, the scale of 40K being pretty much exactly 1/56...

No it started a couple of years ago as a tie in with World of Tanks, and a form of wargamming. They do re-box some of their 1/35th in the World of Tanks boxes but they seem to do new stuff in the small 1/56th scale.

[Snowtrooper]

Well, there has to be the motive to sell those to tabletop wargaming community too, as 1/56 is a rather odd scale to choose otherwise. But it matches pretty well the popular "heroic 28 mm" scale where human-sized models are 30 to 35mm head to toe (theoretically, the scale implies they would be 28 mm from toe to eye level, but there has been a serious "scale creep" over the years and 28mm figures from the 80's look like hobbits compared to modern 28mm figures).

[Steel Penguin]

1/56 is 28mm wargames scale  the tanks are from Warlord games IIRK
and the mm size ( ive always been told) is base of foot to eye level on the figure, as it gives constant size over multiple hats ( battle bowler, stahlhelm, mitre, shako, bearskin etc).
where it will show is if you compare  a plastic and a metal item, the casting process, and the want to ensure things are handalable on the table will lead to non - scale sizes, doe to the different strengths of the materials,

[NARSES2]

and the mm size ( ive always been told) is base of foot to eye level on the figure, as it gives constant size over multiple hats ( battle bowler, stahlhelm, mitre, shako, bearskin etc).

That's what has always been said back to the 60's and probably before and sounds plausable, but if you look at say a Hinton Hunt 15mm figure compared to a modern one then it's cobblers ! Figure growth is a fact of life it enables the designer to get more detail on the figure and thus more plaudits. Cynic ? Moi ? Never