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F-5, CF-5, T-38, and F-20

Started by Bryan H., January 03, 2005, 10:29:04 AM

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kitnut617

I'm kind of wondering how they made the wing work on it, I worked on one a couple of years ago and the wing is in one piece with the u/c legs in the wing and folding into the fuselage.
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Quote from: kitnut617 on April 21, 2010, 02:33:01 PM
I'm kind of wondering how they made the wing work on it, I worked on one a couple of years ago and the wing is in one piece with the u/c legs in the wing and folding into the fuselage.

One of the reasons why I have problems believing it, although it should be noted that Northrop worked on a mid-wing version of the F-5 before the F-20.
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I  dunno.  Seeing some of the Photoshopped stuff here done by -presumably- hobbyists, such as the USAF Mil-8, I think it would be easy enough for the Iranian gov't to do a thorough job.  BTW, didn't they Photoshop some missile launches a year or two ago?
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Quote from: royabulgaf on April 22, 2010, 11:38:32 AM
I  dunno.  Seeing some of the Photoshopped stuff here done by -presumably- hobbyists, such as the USAF Mil-8, I think it would be easy enough for the Iranian gov't to do a thorough job.  BTW, didn't they Photoshop some missile launches a year or two ago?


Yeah they did . A few days after they had claimed to have fired their new rockets off they were found to all have been photoshopped.

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If Iran combined those two aircraft it would look very close to a YF-17
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And AFAIK, this is still the only pic of the Azarkash, isn't it?
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royabulgaf

Let's analyze this a bit.   If it is a mid-wing, where would the spar go?  What is above the spar on an F-5?  The landing gear would have to be lengthened, any evidence of change in the gear doors?  They could have done a ring spar like the MiG-15.  However, wouldn't the fuselage diameter have to be increased?  While we're at it, what is the advantage of the mid-wing over low-wing? 
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Sauragnmon

Or else they went similar to the F-18 and made the MLG retract inward to the fuselage and angle outward for landing.  Looking at where the wings are mounted, it looks like they were fitted around the intake trunking tops, where there would be a mounting/reinforcement point of some form.  Let's remember, the Cobra grew out of the F-5.
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The reasons why Northrop investigated a high-wing design were;

1. The thinness of the wing is no longer limited by having to accept the gear legs,

2. The pylons can be better spaced and accept larger weapons.
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kitnut617

Quote from: Weaver on April 23, 2010, 02:39:35 PM
1. The thinness of the wing is no longer limited by having to accept the gear legs,

Well the wings aren't that thick in the first place.
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Quote from: kitnut617 on April 23, 2010, 08:14:08 PM
Quote from: Weaver on April 23, 2010, 02:39:35 PM
1. The thinness of the wing is no longer limited by having to accept the gear legs,

Well the wings aren't that thick in the first place.

Yes I know, but that WAS Northrop's stated reason. Other advantages of not having the gear in the wings are that you can have the ideal spar/rib layout for stress purposes without having to leave a gear-shaped hole, and the avoidance of a big cutout in the stressed skin.
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Northop's own concept for a high wing F-5 derivative:





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Cliffy B

Oooooooooooo I love the first one with the 6 hard points.  Someone needs to build that one now!  If I only I had an F-5 kit....
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Quote from: Cliffy B on April 24, 2010, 02:19:00 PM
Oooooooooooo I love the first one with the 6 hard points. 

Err??? The high wing version is the 6 hardpoint version.

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