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Sentinel Chicken

May 16, 2006, 11:13:31 AM
Looks like this creative fellow made a Sikorsky Skycrane follow on based on the CH-53E:







And then there's this compound variation:



Original webpage: http://www.geocities.com/air_mech_strike/

Markings are funky, though- civilian markings and military? Ugh. But a very creative whiff nonetheless.  

Aircav

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May 16, 2006, 11:31:27 AM
Bugger, I'd thought about cross kitting a CH-53E and a Tarhe a while ago......
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May 16, 2006, 12:12:27 PM
Is that four engined?

Cool idea, a definite double-take.

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dragon

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May 16, 2006, 08:00:11 PM
I like it!  Gives me lots of ideas for other candidates for the Skycrane treatment: Hind-D, V-22 Osprey, Mi-17, there's got to be some suitable French design for this too! B)  
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May 16, 2006, 08:24:49 PM Last Edit: May 16, 2006, 09:34:03 PM by Tophe
Thanks Sentinel Chicken for this incredible model... :wub:
Thanks Deagon for imagining more and more :D  I may try to see if I can draw a Mustang crane... :blink:  :wacko:

see http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...80&#entry141198
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Jschmus

#5
May 16, 2006, 08:45:09 PM
The "Erickson" markings come from the Revell CH-54 kit.

Dragon, you could probably do the same thing with either a Puma or a Super Frelon.  I know there are models of the Puma, but I don't know if anyone has kitted the other type.
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Jeffry Fontaine

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November 23, 2008, 12:06:19 AM Last Edit: November 23, 2008, 01:08:30 AM by Jeffry Fontaine
Quote from: Aircav on May 16, 2006, 11:31:27 AMBugger, I'd thought about cross kitting a CH-53E and a Tarhe a while ago......
Steve,

Had a similar idea but it involved the MH-53, CH-53E, and the CH-54 to come up with a MH-54 "PAVE LOW RIDER" for covert insertion and extraction of special operations vehicles and equipment that would not fit inside the CH-53 airframe.  It would be an interesting aircraft with that big chin on the front for the radar, FLIR and other sensors.  Maybe someone with money to waste can use both ideas to come up with something interesting.



Quote from: JoeP on May 16, 2006, 12:12:27 PMIs that four engined?

Cool idea, a definite double-take.

Joe,

From what we see in the images provided it appears that it is just the parts from the CH-53E with the three engines that was modified and attached to the CH-54 fuselage.  A four engine CH-54 would be quite impressive as well as an engineering challenge.  Maybe add a couple more rotor blades to it as well?  Make it a ten blade rotor?  Would it still be a helicopter at that point or an unducted rotary wing fan?
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November 23, 2008, 12:50:49 AM
The mother of all skycranes - Mi-26 conversion for under box.
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November 24, 2008, 10:00:26 AM
Japan was interested in the CH-53E, but instead chose the Ch-47 for its heavylift requirement.  Would be interesting to see how a 53 would have been adapted for long range ops to Okinawa like the CH-47JA with its big fuel sponsons and radar nose...
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jcf

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November 24, 2008, 12:58:11 PM
As an aside about the compound with 'mixed' markings:
if it is supposed to represent a 'new prototype' then the Erickson markings would be fine as they own the S-64 design and all rights,
so any new development would be an Erickson project.

Jon

kitnut617

#10
November 24, 2008, 01:18:12 PM
I like the idea but isn't the tank a little under scale ?
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November 25, 2008, 08:19:28 AM
Quote from: nev on November 24, 2008, 10:00:26 AM
Japan was interested in the CH-53E, but instead chose the Ch-47 for its heavylift requirement.  Would be interesting to see how a 53 would have been adapted for long range ops to Okinawa like the CH-47JA with its big fuel sponsons and radar nose...

The RAF was too Nev, but again, went with the Chinook.  I bought a Revell CH-53 with the intention of putting it in that funky Gulf War Special Ops camo. Trouble is, the kits not that great so it's gone to the bottom of the pile.

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November 25, 2008, 08:30:39 AM
Quote from: Sauragnmon on November 23, 2008, 12:50:49 AM
The mother of all skycranes - Mi-26 conversion for under box.

There's a report somewhere - I think it might've been posted at Secret Projects - about Russia and China co-developing an Mi-26 replacement, the Mi-46, which would include a Tarhe-style dedicated flying crane variant.
It's a crappy self-made pic of a Lockheed Unmanned Combat Armed Rotorcraft (UCAR), BTW
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Mossie

#13
November 25, 2008, 08:57:53 AM
Or go a step up to the Mil V-12 Homer.  Removing a chunk of the structure for a Tahre style skycrane might reduce some of the problems that machine had with weight, although there's no getting away from it's sheer size.
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November 25, 2008, 02:05:34 PM
Quote from: nev on November 24, 2008, 10:00:26 AM
Japan was interested in the CH-53E, but instead chose the Ch-47 for its heavylift requirement.  Would be interesting to see how a 53 would have been adapted for long range ops to Okinawa like the CH-47JA with its big fuel sponsons and radar nose...

easy, they'd have based it on the MH-53E Sea Dragon...

as for the RAF; HC.1 would have been based on the CH-53D, the HC.2 on the CH-53E, and the special forces HC.3 with the big Sea Dragon sponsons & Pave Low bits... must get round to building them! they've been on 'the list' for about 7 years now!
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