Hawker Typhoon, Tempest, and Sea Fury

[famvburg]

       May be. All I've ever looked at is the M'box II & Frog Sea Fury, but the II's sure looks bigger! I'll have to check them side-by-side.

I think it's an optical illusion.  The Tempest is a BIG aircraft for a single seater so the engine looks beefy. Plus the installation isn't quite as neat as that of the Sea Fury.  Plus the Matchbox Tempest cowling is a little too square at the front, which makes it look bigger when compared to a Sea Fury engine in the same scale.

[famvburg]

      I knew the Sea Fury & Shack's cowls would match as I've got them stuck in a box for a Sea fury conversion. Which was the version with the Griffon & c/r props? Did you use a Firefly nose for this one in the pic?

     I've always wondered. If the Tempest II & Sea Fury both used the Centaurus, why is the Tempest II's cowling so much bigger in diameter than the Sea Fury's?

It actually isn't,  I've used both in my conversions and there's no difference (at least with the kits I've used anyway).  Also you'll find the diameter of the cowling matches the diameter of the Shackleton Griffon 'power-eggs' (or the Merlin 85 installation) which I think was more by design than accident. A Centuarus powered Shackleton would be neat.

My 'fav' is the Fury with the Sabre VII (3000+hp), the fastest Hawker piston engined fighter.

[kitnut617]

     I knew the Sea Fury & Shack's cowls would match as I've got them stuck in a box for a Sea fury conversion. Which was the version with the Griffon & c/r props? Did you use a Firefly nose for this one in the pic?

The Tempest Mk.IV was LA610 which was to have a Griffon engine, also it was supposed to be the 'Light Weight' Tempest with the shortened wingspan, this being done by moving the wings inwards so the two wheel bays almost touched.  This was transfered to the Fury project as LA610 and it was equipped with a Griffon and the contra-prop.  LA610 was then re-engined again with the Sabre VII and my plan is to build all three versions of LA610.

For my Sabre VII Fury version I've used the Ventura Tempest Mk.I conversion, you have to add a carb intake under the nose and the top profile needs to be sloped as you can see in the photo (warning though, in my photo the nose has come unattached from the sticky tape and dropped a bit so the slope looks too steep), you get the leading edge radiators in the conversion and these need to be made not as wide as how the Tempest Mk.I had them.  Photos show that the last exhaust stub lines up with the front of the radiator.

FYI Ventura has a new name called Jay's Models which are available through High Planes Models

http://www.hiplanes.com/new/jays_models_pricelist.html

For my Furies I've used the PM Models Bagdad Fury Mk.61, although these are two seaters it has the correct underside to the rear fuselage and I thought it would be easier to change the cockpit area than mess around with under the fuselage, plus I had already planned on using all the Aeroclub accessories you can get for the Sea Fury.

[Just call me Ray]

Ok so maybe it's not really a contributing post but...dayum that looks badass

[famvburg]

    I've seen a pic of someone's & they used a Firefly nose & prop. It looked right & that's what I plan to use.

     I knew the Sea Fury & Shack's cowls would match as I've got them stuck in a box for a Sea fury conversion. Which was the version with the Griffon & c/r props? Did you use a Firefly nose for this one in the pic?

The Tempest Mk.IV was LA610 which was to have a Griffon engine, also it was supposed to be the 'Light Weight' Tempest with the shortened wingspan, this being done by moving the wings inwards so the two wheel bays almost touched.  This was transfered to the Fury project as LA610 and it was equipped with a Griffon and the contra-prop.  LA610 was then re-engined again with the Sabre VII and my plan is to build all three versions of LA610.

For my Sabre VII Fury version I've used the Ventura Tempest Mk.I conversion, you have to add a carb intake under the nose and the top profile needs to be sloped as you can see in the photo (warning though, in my photo the nose has come unattached from the sticky tape and dropped a bit so the slope looks too steep), you get the leading edge radiators in the conversion and these need to be made not as wide as how the Tempest Mk.I had them.  Photos show that the last exhaust stub lines up with the front of the radiator.

FYI Ventura has a new name called Jay's Models which are available through High Planes Models

http://www.hiplanes.com/new/jays_models_pricelist.html

For my Furies I've used the PM Models Bagdad Fury Mk.61, although these are two seaters it has the correct underside to the rear fuselage and I thought it would be easier to change the cockpit area than mess around with under the fuselage, plus I had already planned on using all the Aeroclub accessories you can get for the Sea Fury.

[kitnut617]

   I've seen a pic of someone's & they used a Firefly nose & prop. It looked right & that's what I plan to use.

I'm using a Firefly nose on my Tempest Mk.III, I was given a description of what it looked like by the Tempest, Typhoon Specialist at Air-Britain and originally used a Beaufighter Mk.II nacelle, but later my Dad gave me an old 'The Aeroplane' magazine, the type in A3 format (11"x17") which was issued about 1948 and has cut-away drawings of engines and aircraft in it.  Well there's a cut-away of the Firefly Mk.I/II and it said the engine was a Griffon 'power-egg' and immediately I realised what the Tempest Mk.III had, it fits very well.  I can see some resemblance if the Firefly Mk.IV nose was used though, I had done a comparison when I was doing my Sabre VII Fury and I thought it was a bit small so went with the Tempest Mk.I nose.

These pics are of when I was using the Beaufighter nacelles and I was trying to reshape them.

[Daryl J.]

I just ordered the Monogram moulded 1/48 Typhoon for a couple reasons:

One will be a cloth winged version, the other for the USAF in Southeast Asia 1967-71 or so.    Posts to follow throughout the winter and possibly into the spring/summer.   

The raised panel lines of the kits will serve me better for this type of building.   Ultracast and Quickboost bits to be affixed where they'd serve better.
(Earl Grey tea, loose leaf filtered in gold, served with heavy cream and sugar)
Daryl J.

[Tophe]

I love the Twin-Tiffies I discover here today, thanks.

[GTX]

Something interesting ...a Bristol Centaurus powered Tornado:



Regards,

Greg

[Gondor]

Something interesting ...a Bristol Centaurus powered Tornado:

Regards,

Greg

Now that's an interesting nose to emulate

Gondor

[PR19_Kit]

Not the prettiest aircraft on the block though........ 

[kitnut617]

I've got the Maintrack conversion to do that Tornado

[GTX]

I've got the Maintrack conversion to do that Tornado

What scale?  You could possibly use it as a starting point to do a R2800 variant of the CA-15:


or even the Bristol Centaurus powered version I had in Southern Sea Eagles - The Alternative RAN FAA:



Regards,

Greg

[kitnut617]

I've got the Maintrack conversion to do that Tornado

What scale?  You could possibly use it as a starting point to do a R2800 variant of the CA-15:
Regards,

Greg

1/72 scale,  and I've got a 1/72 resin kit of the CA-15 too.

[GTX]

I've got the Maintrack conversion to do that Tornado

What scale?  You could possibly use it as a starting point to do a R2800 variant of the CA-15:
Regards,

Greg

1/72 scale,  and I've got a 1/72 resin kit of the CA-15 too.

Well, everything is saying, go for it

Regards,

Greg