Hawker Typhoon, Tempest, and Sea Fury

[kitnut617]

Can anyone tell me, or preferably show in picture or plan, the leading edge radiator arrangement for the Merlin 85 powered Fury as I am planning to build one and this piece of information is holding the build up.

Gondor

As said above, there wasn't a Merlin powered Fury planned, there were two Griffon engined Furys however.  All the various engine installations on the Fury were in the 24-2500 hp range, the Fury with the Sabre VII was a bit over 3000 hp.

[Gondor]

The picture from the Brit Modeller link was one I had seen, I also have found this build http://www.modelingmadness.com/reviews/allies/gb/hobbinsfury1.htm but I want to have confirmation of the starboard intake type and size before I commit to cutting plastic.

Gondor

[The Wooksta!]

It'll be the same style on both wings.  The first prototype Fury had the intakes in the same position as the Tempest II but later machines swapped them round, I forget why.  Can't see Camm having a new intake designed when flipping one would be easier.

[kitnut617]

The Tempest Mk.II and Mk.VI both had two air intakes (one in each wing root leading edge) and one oil cooler next to the starboard air intake.  From what info I've been able to gather (Brooklands Museum and Chris Thomas [Air-Britain Typhoon/Tempest Specialist who incidently you can contact on Britmodeller]) the Tempest Mk.III and Mk.IV (both Griffon engined) had just the two air intakes.  The Mk.IV was the 'Light-Weight' Tempest and was the original LA610 and the program evolved into the Fury program.  From pics and info, the Griffon LA610 just had the two air intakes and early Centaurus Furys had the same air intake/ oil cooler arrangement as the Tempests but when the prototype Sea Fury flew (with non-folding wings) the oil cooler had been switched to the port wing.  I have not been able to find out why this was done even after some enquiries to the above sources of info. In any event, all these Tempests and Furys had two air intakes.

I have a 3-View drawing of the Tempest Mk.III but only a written description of the Mk.IV. For my in-progress models of these two, I'm using a Firefly cowling on the Mk.III and gone with a similar annular radiator as Fury LA610 shows as I thought this was the more logical sequence of events (although I stress I've not been able to confirm what it actually had looked like). The Mk.III and Mk.IV would have had different versions of the Griffon engine too, which I can't remember the numbers for them right now.  In the Fury program there were also different Griffon engines used and my thoughts are one might have looked like a Tempest Mk.III arrangement but again, because of no actually photos to verify this I'm only guessing.

[Gondor]

My apologies for getting the engine type wrong. Griffon not Merlin, but then as the cowling looks like the Universal Power Plants which considering the time frame of the aircraft I would suspect would be the type, or similar, used. However with only one 3/4 view available it is difficult to tell for definite that it is what is being used.

Gondor

[GTX]

Interesting website for any Tempest fans:  http://www.hawkertempest.se/index.htm

Regards,

Greg

[ysi_maniac]

With Allison V-1710 ... perhaps not

[Spey_Phantom]

found this while watching Disney's Planes 

[NARSES2]

 

[Weaver]

Just been thinking how (hypothetically, given it's price) the 1/24th Airfix Typhoon could be whiffed. If you wanted to "do it justice" and avoid acusations of "wasting" the kit, any mod you'd make would need to be highly detailed, with interior detail if possible.

Here's an idea: what if the 3" RP hadn't been satisfactorily developed, so the 40mm Vickers K gun continued in service? Trumpeter make a 1/24th Hurricane Mk.IID with good internal detail, so you could, relatively simply, swap the parts onto the Typhoon.

What else could you do? Alternative markings are an obvious one. Alternative engines would be very difficult, since you'd have to design the details of the installation, not just "stick a new nose on it" as you might do in 1/72nd.

[PR19_Kit]

I'd need a World Bank Loan first of all, then ANOTHER loan to increase the size of my model room and a THIRD loan to build a heavy duty display shelf....

[Martin H]

I'd need a World Bank Loan first of all, then ANOTHER loan to increase the size of my model room and a THIRD loan to build a heavy duty display shelf....

The a 4th loan to pay for your own funeral once your missus gets her hands on you after she finds out about loans 1,2 and 3

[pyro-manic]

Nah - you'd end up under the patio, so there wouldn't be a funeral...

How about a two-seater? That could be an interesting look. Similar canopy etc. as the two-seat Furies. The work would just be building a second cockpit - not too complex when compared to doing a whole new engine - and making a new canopy, which again could be done reasonably easily by someone used to vacuum/smash-forming canopies. Would make for an interesting and plausible model, too. All-yellow, or overall silver with stripes for a post-war high-performance trainer?

[zenrat]

Comrade Harps and I were discussing the feasibility of a torpedo carrying Typhoon whilst at Expo last weekend.
Obviously slung at a downward pointing angle to clear the radiator.

Thoughts?

[Army of One]

I like the sound of that......taller tailwheel like the FW190....? Would it be a shorter torpedo or a full size one like a Swordfish or Beaufighter would carry.....?