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Hawker Typhoon, Tempest, and Sea Fury

Started by Gary, August 15, 2005, 12:02:40 PM

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zenrat

This Fiat (from Expo - what inspired the discussion) looks to be a full size one.

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Old Wombat

Quote from: zenrat on June 17, 2016, 03:42:44 AM
Comrade Harps and I were discussing the feasibility of a torpedo carrying Typhoon whilst at Expo last weekend.
Obviously slung at a downward pointing angle to clear the radiator.

Thoughts?



Why angle it down? :-\

I'd just snuggle it in behind the radiator to minimise drag. You wouldn't lose enough air flow through the radiator to worry about, especially with the reduced workload on the engine as opposed to with the torpedo hanging fully into the slip-stream.

The Tiffy is almost 32' long & the 18" Mk. XV is barely more than 17' long. So it's doable but you might need quite a long-ish tail wheel extension.
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Quote from: Old Wombat on June 17, 2016, 09:54:08 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 17, 2016, 03:42:44 AM
Comrade Harps and I were discussing the feasibility of a torpedo carrying Typhoon whilst at Expo last weekend.
Obviously slung at a downward pointing angle to clear the radiator.

Thoughts?



Why angle it down? :-\

I'd just snuggle it in behind the radiator to minimise drag. You wouldn't lose enough air flow through the radiator to worry about, especially with the reduced workload on the engine as opposed to with the torpedo hanging fully into the slip-stream.

The Tiffy is almost 32' long & the 18" Mk. XV is barely more than 17' long. So it's doable but you might need quite a long-ish tail wheel extension.


You might have a clean release problem if the nose of the torpedo is tucked in behind the radiator housing.

kitnut617

Quote from: Old Wombat on June 17, 2016, 09:54:08 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 17, 2016, 03:42:44 AM
Comrade Harps and I were discussing the feasibility of a torpedo carrying Typhoon whilst at Expo last weekend.
Obviously slung at a downward pointing angle to clear the radiator.

Thoughts?



Why angle it down? :-\

I'd just snuggle it in behind the radiator to minimise drag. You wouldn't lose enough air flow through the radiator to worry about, especially with the reduced workload on the engine as opposed to with the torpedo hanging fully into the slip-stream.

The Tiffy is almost 32' long & the 18" Mk. XV is barely more than 17' long. So it's doable but you might need quite a long-ish tail wheel extension.


Really all you need to do is give the Typhoon a Tempest Mk.I cowling and leading edge radiators   ;) ;) ;)
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NARSES2

A Sea Typhoon was designed (no idea if they'd have slung a torpedo under it however) would have had longer wings = was PR19 involved ?

Seen a couple of nice models of it as various shows
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zenrat

All good stuff and all being taken on board.

Thanks.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

kitnut617

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Quote from: NARSES2 on June 18, 2016, 05:05:19 AM
A Sea Typhoon was designed (no idea if they'd have slung a torpedo under it however) would have had longer wings = was PR19 involved ?


3-View of it I got from the Brooklands Museum  (EDIT: come to think of it, I think Phil Butler sent it to me)



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PR19_Kit

Quote from: NARSES2 on June 18, 2016, 05:05:19 AM

A Sea Typhoon was designed (no idea if they'd have slung a torpedo under it however) would have had longer wings = was PR19 involved ?


A tad before my time I think, but I'm glad to see 'The True Stuff' was already under way even then.  ;D ;)
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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dogsbody

Quote from: dogsbody on December 08, 2007, 10:52:12 AM
This has been scanned from Francis K. Mason's book on the Typhoon/Tempest.








I posted this on Page 2 of this topic, back in 2007


Chris
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with a uniform to wear,
a fast aeroplane to fly,
and something to shoot at?"

PR19_Kit

Did anyone on here ever build a Sea Typhoon as shown above?

It's an interesting looking design, especially with the outward retracting main gear. It looks as if the longer wings  ;D were more for making room for larger fuel tanks than for any aerodynamic advantage. A later bubble canopy version would look good too.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 19, 2016, 02:13:13 AM
Did anyone on here ever build a Sea Typhoon as shown above?

It's an interesting looking design, especially with the outward retracting main gear. It looks as if the longer wings  ;D were more for making room for larger fuel tanks than for any aerodynamic advantage. A later bubble canopy version would look good too.

No idea Kit although its on my "to do" list

Gondor
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Quote from: Gondor on June 19, 2016, 02:29:08 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 19, 2016, 02:13:13 AM
Did anyone on here ever build a Sea Typhoon as shown above?

It's an interesting looking design, especially with the outward retracting main gear. It looks as if the longer wings  ;D were more for making room for larger fuel tanks than for any aerodynamic advantage. A later bubble canopy version would look good too.

No idea Kit although its on my "to do" list

Gondor

Its been done once to my knowlege. A gent by the name of George Munroe from IPMS Brampton built it years ago. It did a few shows on his club stand, then disapeared from view. I have one photo of it in my files from the 2004 Hornechurch show.

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Martin H on June 19, 2016, 05:52:21 AM

Its been done once to my knowlege. A gent by the name of George Munroe from IPMS Brampton built it years ago. It did a few shows on his club stand, then disapeared from view. I have one photo of it in my files from the 2004 Hornechurch show.



Thanks OGL, that's pretty much how I figured it would look in bubble canopy form.

It's very impressive, in model form and in RW. It would have made a good replacement for the Firebrand perhaps, but maybe with a Centaurus instead of the Sabre. Somehow I can't see the FAA loving the complexities of the Sabre all that much.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

dogsbody

Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 19, 2016, 02:13:13 AM
Did anyone on here ever build a Sea Typhoon as shown above?

It's an interesting looking design, especially with the outward retracting main gear. It looks as if the longer wings  ;D were more for making room for larger fuel tanks than for any aerodynamic advantage. A later bubble canopy version would look good too.


Back in the late 90's, I discovered a small hobbyshop in downtown Edmonton and on display inside was a 1/48 scale SeaTyphoon that someone had built. Unfortunately, a year or so later, on my next trip into the city, the shop was no longer there. As this was pre-cellphone, I didn't get a picture.


Chris
"What young man could possibly be bored
with a uniform to wear,
a fast aeroplane to fly,
and something to shoot at?"