Differently 141

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Time to look in our own forum for "traitors of the motherland"!

Off to school now, on th second last daybefore sommer holidays!

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Close to the Vought/Bv match, the Potez-CAMS 141 Antares was designed in 1936 and first flew in 1938, thus the 7-engined temporary Double-Antares of 1939 and the final (4-engined again) Asymtares of 1940:
(thanks to http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/air/fr/potez/po141.htm )

Well, as everything should be commercially justified by itself...:
- Double Antares: double load, and as the drag and weight is less than doubled (common central wing, no external floats), less than twice much engines is enough, 7.
- Asymtares: with a lower speed, the 4 original engines were enough, and to be repaired in flight without the mechanic crawling too long inside the wing, they are all on the same side...
...Happy holidays (and modelling) Thomas...

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I know I know you will tell me that the Vickers V.141 of 1926 and Farman F-141 of 1928 came before the Bv-141.
Well, yes and no: that is right for the first flight, but the design of the Blohm und Voss Bv-141 (as Hamburger Ha-141-V0) is dated 1925! As a biplane, of course.

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– So your Farman F-141 was an illegal copy of the Ha-141, depicted by a future's teller?
– No! The F-141 Super-Goliath came from the previous F-140 that came from the previous F-40 of our very own!
– Hm... But why 141?
– Just after 140!
– So why did you build also a F-1,41?
– No relation! This was a derivative of the F-41!
– The Justice doesn't believe it. The sentence is 141 years of jail...
– No! Please, Your Honour...
– All right, the sentence is reduced to 135 years, till 2141.

(thanks to http://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php?...SION=0&MOTCLEF= and http://www.kheichhorn.de/html/body_farman_...er_goliath.html )

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The Vikers V.141 Scout photograph I found on the Web (at http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contribution.../Braas/4036.htm ) is uneasy to twin, so I will just increase its speed transforming into a "half-monoplane", "sesquiplane in an unusual way", the ½ being not centered over the 1...
V-.141 Souct:

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Piper PA-141 T-Warrior:

– No... this is a fake! The source is the Piper PA-28-141 Cherokee Warrior of http://www.neastaviation.com/Aircraft.html
– Why 141 without asymmetry?
– The PA-28 Cherokee family had versions with 150hp, 160hp, 180hp, thus PA-28-150, PA-28-160, PA-28-180.
– No relation with 141!
– Then came the cheap derivative PA-28-140, and versions PA-28-151, PA-28-161, PA-28-181, and... PA-28-141.
– That's a tale to avoid paying the Bv-141 patent...
– No, no asymmetry on the PA-28s, not even twin-tails...
– Yes: twin-tail and a single starboard fin, twin-nose and a single starboard nose-wheel...
– You are crazy!
– You are sad.

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According to http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-141.html it seems an M-141 or IMI ADM-141 TALD (Tactical Air-Launched Decoy) has been flown asymmetric, with a half opening of its "flip out wings". Well, asymmetry for a 141-aircraft is right, but I need an eye, a canopy, thus the ADM-141E below, scale 48/1?...

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Oh... a Monogram F-141 Tomcat kit Where? It seems to have disappeared from the E-bay list alas... Asymmetric like the Superdahu (VG on starboard, fixed on port?)?

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Thanks to The Rat and JHM   , I must immediately correct my guilt    forgetting the Canadair CT-141 Tutor (and asymmetric Twin-Tutor, of course):

(thanks to the 1/72 Hobbycraft kit at http://www.cahood.com/M6413.htm  )

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Little corrections:
1/ the Twin-Tutor code is of course different from the Tutor's
2/ as there is no jet on the port fuselage, no need of air-intakes...
3/ explaining why: mass training of 3 pupils per teacher, in a "side by side/side by side" layout...

[B777LR]

What would you do if it was a heli? Join the tips of the rotors?!

 

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With intermeshing rotors, all is possible, side by side...    

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According to "Le Trait d'Union" magazine (French branch of Air Britain) #213, the Hanriot HD-141 was a 1929 conversion of 4 HD-14, 4 HD-32, 4 HD-321.
According to http://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php?ID=5677 this Hanriot HD-141 was built in 10 copies, including 8 from HD-321.
As it seems there is no HD-141 picture available anywhere, I am proud to present the very first one, the asymmetric HD-141HB Hémi-Biplan: half-biplane (biplane on starboard, no wing on port) but not monoplane. Why?! How?! Well, this was due to the incredibly powerful engine (130hp officially, maybe 180hp secretly!!!) providing a huge torque that needed counter-balance by lift on a single side.

(thanks to http://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php?ID=707 )

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From the AN/ALQ-141 towed underwater system (kinda "submarine", Airborne Mine Counter Measures system), I may add... another what-if 141 airplane: A-141 Nalq, and its asymmetric twin: TA-141 Twinalq.

( thanks to http://members.aol.com/helmineron/analq141.htm )
You know what: I am a what-ifer...

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Thanks to MartinH and to the Putnam book "Boulton-Paul aircraft since 1915", here is my P.141Z asymmetric-twin version of the VTOL Boulton-Paul P.141, dated 1960:

And at http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/ , our dear Overscan mentioned a Blackburn P.141 looking like a Phantom...