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Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on April 05, 2018, 02:09:11 PM

Tower, like Revell, is part of Hobbico, so the pricing makes ya go hmmm.
Of course the US price has no VAT, as it doesn't exist over here.

Do you pay State taxes on models in the U.S. Jon ?
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Quote from: NARSES2 on April 06, 2018, 06:02:37 AM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on April 05, 2018, 02:09:11 PM

Tower, like Revell, is part of Hobbico, so the pricing makes ya go hmmm.
Of course the US price has no VAT, as it doesn't exist over here.

Do you pay State taxes on models in the U.S. Jon ?

Yes we do- brick and mortar and some but not all internet vendors.  I'll pay NJ sales tax on stuff through Amazon but not, as an example, Squadron.  Of course, the Division of Taxation asks for it around tax time. :angel:
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Quote from: scooter on April 06, 2018, 06:11:24 AM


Yes we do- brick and mortar and some but not all internet vendors.  I'll pay NJ sales tax on stuff through Amazon but not, as an example, Squadron.  Of course, the Division of Taxation asks for it around tax time. :angel:

How come ? Plus I assume you pay at the point of sale and not annualy ?

US taxes have always confused me whenever I've been over there, especially when I've crossed a State line and it suddenly changes  :banghead: Also I find the way they sometimes price something on view and then slap the local tax on after you've decided to buy it ! Can come as a huge shock to someone who's used to only seeing the VAT (our sales tax) split out on a receipt.
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Quote from: NARSES2 on April 06, 2018, 06:42:23 AM
Quote from: scooter on April 06, 2018, 06:11:24 AM


Yes we do- brick and mortar and some but not all internet vendors.  I'll pay NJ sales tax on stuff through Amazon but not, as an example, Squadron.  Of course, the Division of Taxation asks for it around tax time. :angel:

How come ? Plus I assume you pay at the point of sale and not annually ?

US taxes have always confused me whenever I've been over there, especially when I've crossed a State line and it suddenly changes  :banghead: Also I find the way they sometimes price something on view and then slap the local tax on after you've decided to buy it ! Can come as a huge shock to someone who's used to only seeing the VAT (our sales tax) split out on a receipt.

Sales taxes are a point of revenue for each state, and, in some cases like NYC, city.  Which is why sales tax percentages vary from state to state, and what gets taxed.  Mississippi doesn't have property taxes, but they do have a 20% VAT on durable goods, like cars.  When I got my Grand Prix there in '07, I had to have base legal provide a letter for the dealer to exempt me from that tax, but I still had to pay the NJ sales tax rate of 7%.

Usually if they have a presence in the state, you pay sales tax on internet purchases.  Amazon has distro hubs in several parts of New Jersey, ergo, NJ sales tax; Squadron doesn't, therefore no sales tax.  Galls, a public service (police/fire/EMS/Military) retailer I use on occasion is a subsidiary of Aramark (who has a presence in the state), so I pay tax on stuff purchased through them- including clothing items, which normally *aren't* subject to sales tax in NJ.  NJ doesn't tax what they classify as necessities- primarily unprepared food and clothing.

So yes, sales tax is *extremely* confusing.
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I paid my own employer's mail room for the model (!) and didn't have to pay ANY Sales Tax at all, as it was going to be 'exported'. What a wonderful scheme, eh?  :thumbsup:
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Quote from: NARSES2 on April 06, 2018, 06:02:37 AM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on April 05, 2018, 02:09:11 PM

Tower, like Revell, is part of Hobbico, so the pricing makes ya go hmmm.
Of course the US price has no VAT, as it doesn't exist over here.

Do you pay State taxes on models in the U.S. Jon ?

In states that have a sales tax, Oregon for instance does not, in Washington state
it varies as the counties and cities tack their own amount onto the standard rate set
by the state. Here in Everett, Snohomish County, Washington it's 9.7%.
Groceries and prescription drugs are not taxed.

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Quote from: NARSES2 on April 06, 2018, 06:42:23 AM
Also I find the way they sometimes price something on view and then slap the local tax on after you've decided to buy it ! Can come as a huge shock to someone who's used to only seeing the VAT (our sales tax) split out on a receipt.

That's the standard way of business, the price on the shelf is the pre-tax price,
pretty much everything taxable in Wa. is that way. As stated, the tax rate varies by
locality, so unique price+tax labels would need to be printed for everything, not
something likely to happen.

Here's the Wa. rates by community:
http://www.sale-tax.com/Washington_all

NARSES2

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on April 06, 2018, 07:39:38 PM

in Washington state
it varies as the counties and cities tack their own amount onto the standard rate set
by the state. Here in Everett, Snohomish County, Washington it's 9.7%.
Groceries and prescription drugs are not taxed.

Flippin' Adda, so it varies even within the State, talk about confusing  :o The only confusion that can arise in the U.K. is whether an item is exempt from VAT or not. There are very few where the exemption depends on usage so it's not a problem. VAT in the UK is 20% by the way.

Quote from: scooter on April 06, 2018, 07:04:19 AM

Yes we do- brick and mortar and some but not all internet vendors.  I'll pay NJ sales tax on stuff through Amazon but not, as an example, Squadron.  Of course, the Division of Taxation asks for it around tax time. :angel:


I'm even more confused now. So do you ever pay a sales tax on items bought from Squadron ?
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If you want revell's Haubenu UFO kit, you better get now while you can still find them  :-\
the company is pulling them off the shelves, the reason is just absurd  :banghead:

https://www.thelocal.de/20180619/toy-nazi-ufo-taken-off-market-after-criticism
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Quote from: Nils on June 19, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
If you want revell's Haubenu UFO kit, you better get now while you can still find them  :-\


Quite fancied a couple of those and then saw they're £50 on Hannants :(

Much like their ISS kit, I didn't know about it until too late.

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Quote from: Nils on June 19, 2018, 11:14:39 AM

If you want revell's Haubenu UFO kit, you better get now while you can still find them  :-\
the company is pulling them off the shelves, the reason is just absurd  :banghead:

https://www.thelocal.de/20180619/toy-nazi-ufo-taken-off-market-after-criticism


'The German Children's Protection Association (DKSB) and the Military History Museum (MHM) in Dresden had previously criticized the product for its inaccurate representation of history.'

Hm, so all of us here are definitely in their bad books!  ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;)

But wasn't the Haubenu kit manufactured by someone else originally?
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Quote from: Nils on June 19, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
If you want revell's Haubenu UFO kit, you better get now while you can still find them  :-\
the company is pulling them off the shelves, the reason is just absurd  :banghead:

https://www.thelocal.de/20180619/toy-nazi-ufo-taken-off-market-after-criticism

More political correctness run amok!  :banghead:  :banghead:  If the product description was so bad or misleading, then why not write a new and better researched description instead of pulling the damn kit off the shelves?
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Quote from: seadude on June 19, 2018, 03:46:32 PM
Quote from: Nils on June 19, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
If you want revell's Haubenu UFO kit, you better get now while you can still find them  :-\
the company is pulling them off the shelves, the reason is just absurd  :banghead:

https://www.thelocal.de/20180619/toy-nazi-ufo-taken-off-market-after-criticism

More political correctness run amok!  :banghead:  :banghead:  If the product description was so bad or misleading, then why not write a new and better researched description instead of pulling the damn kit off the shelves?

Well they have to get the kits with the incorrect description off the shelves, otherwise they're still 'misleading' people.

It strikes me that a revised instruction sheet and possibly box design will solve the problem.
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