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Started by jcf, June 23, 2006, 09:09:05 AM

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at €10,99 it seems a bit steep, thats little more then double the price of the first release or any other 1/144 (re)release!  :angry:
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The Wooksta!

144th in many cases seems to be as pricey if not more so than 72nd.
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Quote from: The Wooksta! on May 26, 2022, 07:09:46 AM
144th in many cases seems to be as pricey if not more so than 72nd.

When you consider that a modern jet is nearly twice the size of a WW2 fighter then it makes sense that the costs are the same. It's the same workload for the mould designers and instruction writers, the box printers and the plastic manufacturers. The amount of plastic will vary but not by a huge amount.

At the end is the question of how much can they sell the kit for, not what it should be priced at based on the scale.

The Wooksta!

I was talking more 144th WW2 stuff, rather than airliners. The resin 144th BAC Lightnings are around the same price as a 72nd Airfix one.
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Quote from: Nick on May 27, 2022, 02:56:50 AM

When you consider that a modern jet is nearly twice the size of a WW2 fighter then it makes sense that the costs are the same. It's the same workload for the mould designers and instruction writers, the box printers and the plastic manufacturers. The amount of plastic will vary but not by a huge amount.

At the end is the question of how much can they sell the kit for, not what it should be priced at based on the scale.


Development and production costs are a greater percentage of total costs than they are for 1/72 and larger kits so the differential isn't as great as you might expect. Plus 1/144 along with 1/32 seems to be quite fashionable at the moment.
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Quote from: NARSES2 on May 29, 2022, 02:16:41 AM

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Development and production costs are a greater percentage of total costs than they are for 1/72 and larger kits so the differential isn't as great as you might expect. Plus 1/144 along with 1/32 seems to be quite fashionable at the moment.

I don't build 1/144 for a couple of reasons - I think it's too small a scale to accurately have and/or see the interesting details of the aircraft; also, I'm quite near-sighted, so for me the first reason is self-fulfilling.  But I also have fairly thick fingers, and handling those tiny parts that I can barely see is a real challenge - one I don't have to accept.  :)
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I built a couple of Eduard 1/144 Spitfires some time ago (i.e.: about 5 years) & they were exquisitely detailed. Mine even looked good, until the board they were on got knocked off the dining table (my workspace at the time) & the tile monster consumed the prop from one, both right landing gears & the canopy from the other. I tossed them after that.

Coincidentally, I found the decals last night while looking for missing bits from a partially completed build, which I still haven't found & which will probably lead to a change in the concept of the build.

My main point being; most of the cost of a model is in the design of the kit & the tooling, the cost of the plastic makes up very little of the production cost, even with the big kits, but does generate some variation in the expense of making the kit. The cost of the research can vary but is generally fairly similar across the board, as is design (especially with CAD/CAM programs & their offspring). The cost of the tooling can vary quite a bit, however, due to the size of the steel blocks used & the amount of material that needs to be cut away depending on the size of the kit & the detail required.
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Quote from: Old Wombat on May 29, 2022, 04:34:42 AM

My main point being; most of the cost of a model is in the design of the kit & the tooling, the cost of the plastic makes up very little of the production cost, even with the big kits, but does generate some variation in the expense of making the kit.

Yup, very much so
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Spey_Phantom

some new releases for the 1st quarter of 2023 have been revealed  :mellow:

https://www.kitreviewsonline.de/revell-neuheiten-januar-bis-juni-2023/

the 1/144 Airbus A300 beluga is definatly on my wanted list, aswell as the reissue of the 1/72 Dingo I (might try another Dingo II in realworld Belgian Army markings).

but so far, im not too impressed, hopefully the rest of the year will bring more promise.
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PR19_Kit

The Beluga is a re-pop of their original kit with new decals by the look of it.

But it is quite Whiffable...................  ;)

 
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elmayerle

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 18, 2022, 02:00:33 PMThe Beluga is a re-pop of their original kit with new decals by the look of it.

But it is quite Whiffable...................  ;)

 
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Quote from: elmayerle on November 21, 2022, 09:45:02 PMThat upper deck front end could make a marvelous First-Class lounge.


Here's the write-up that you can just see in front of it.  ;D

Airbus A390-200 PH-CFB
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines  2005
 
During the late 1990s Airbus Industrie were marketing the A380 'Double Decker' to the world airline community as its idea of the '747 of the 21st Century'. The airlines, although persuaded by the A380's operating costs, were less than happy about the original capital cost of buying it, and even the leasing companies took a step back when it came to laying out hard cash. Accordingly, during late 1999, Airbus started on an alternative, lower cost strategy, resulting in the A390.

The A390 was built using a much lengthened A300-600ST Beluga fuselage, and was the first Airbus to use the newly developed hyper-critical 'Wing2000' design from BAe. The prototype and the original production batch of A390-200s used Pratt & Whitney 4168 engines, as used in the A330-300s, but later airframes were offered with GE or R-R engines. The fuselage was strengthened internally and fitted with two passenger floors, as well as a large freight deck in the lower lobe. Unlike the Beluga, the A390 did not have a lowered cockpit and forward fuselage, as there was no need for the huge nose loading door. In the A390 this area was fixed, and featured the now famous 'Promenade Deck' forward facing window arrangement. Originally offered as an option, the 'Promenade' was made a standard feature after every one of  the first five airlines to order the A390 decided to take it as an option.

Air France was the launch customer for the A390, and opened its service to Johannesburg using the aircraft in late 2003. This service operated at low level (typically 1500 ft.) over the last 250 miles of the flight, so that passengers could view the High Veldt from the Promenade Deck, and proved extremely popular almost immediately. KLM and Northwest copied this idea on their trans-Atlantic westbound flights by coming down to low level crossing the Greenland glaciers for about 200 miles , before climbing back to cruising height to continue the flight.

PH-CFB was the second A390 purchased by KLM, and was delivered in KLM's long distance configuration, offering 65 First Class seats in the upper forward lounge, 120 Business Class seats in the lower forward lounge and 465 Tourist Class seats on both decks  toward the rear.

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Model built from  two Revell Belugas (you guessed....) with much hacking to remove the 'Droop Snoot' cockpit. The wings are lengthened Revell A330 items, including having the wing roots grafted onto the Beluga fuselages, with two sets of A330 engines. The fin is modified from an Airfix 747, the tailplane from a Revell DC-10 mounted on the tail end of the A330 fuselage that's grafted to the Beluga's extreme rear. The under-carriage uses components from  A330/340 and Beluga kits. Paint by Halfords and Humbrol, and decals from any KLM kit I could find plus MILLIONS of windows from AHS and ATP. Oh yes, remember that the model is  1/144  scale....
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