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Hawker Hunter

Started by elmayerle, April 13, 2005, 09:59:08 AM

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Quote from: Mossie on March 07, 2011, 06:13:19 AM
I think the pic below gives me a good idea of how to proceed.  It's a Draken tailpipe, they used a similar version of the Avon in the Lightning but with eyelid reheat outlet.  Looking into the lip, you can see the shape of the reheat housing.  This suggests the pipe on the Aries set isn't underscale, that the widest point is not the tailpipe.  So my thoughts are to adapt the conversion or standard Hunter tailpipe to accept the Aries tailpipe, with a little bit of putty to fair it in.

The production version was to have a fully variable reheat outlet, unlike the on-off eyelid type of the prototype.  I've got an old Flightpath etch set that has petals for the Lightning, I found it too fiddly on another build but I might have another go with a bit more patience.  If that fails, the razor saw will come out to create petals on the Aries eyelid.



The Draken tailpipe was the rear end of a SAAB internally developed afterburner. In fact, that AB was so long that the resulting engine installation for some time was the longest airplane engine in the world. lso, interestingly enough, SAAB did develop a smaller afterburner for the Swedish Hunter F.4. It was testflown, but as it was found that the limited increase in performance didn't match the increased fuel consumption, the project was abandoned.

What I really meant to point out is that the tailpipe in your pic is not representative for a british Avon. Sorry for the rambling..
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Quote from: Pellson on August 01, 2012, 12:59:20 PM
The Draken tailpipe was the rear end of a SAAB internally developed afterburner. In fact, that AB was so long that the resulting engine installation for some time was the longest airplane engine in the world. lso, interestingly enough, SAAB did develop a smaller afterburner for the Swedish Hunter F.4. It was testflown, but as it was found that the limited increase in performance didn't match the increased fuel consumption, the project was abandoned.

What I really meant to point out is that the tailpipe in your pic is not representative for a british Avon. Sorry for the rambling..

Don't worry, I know what you mean.  The production P.1083's would have had a larger bore Avon than the standard Hunter, in fact the engine would have formed the outer skin of the aircraft as Hawkers stru.ggled to fit it in the available space.  I found a drawing of the large bore Avon and the shape of the afterburner and it was this I used as a template, rather than the Draken itself.  I got it started, but it hasn't progressed much farther than that
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I like the Mirage crosses. Spiky Hunter. :thumbsup: And the nose-breathers would mean space for a couple of enormous cannon (4.5" recoilless?) in the wing roots.
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Hi KitNut, for you to consider alternatives  ;) :)
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That top one looks very like the HF-24 Marut!  :thumbsup:
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 06, 2012, 12:53:59 PM
That top one looks very like the HF-24 Marut!  :thumbsup:

Speaking of which, does anybody know of a 1/72 model of the HF-24?
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Digging into the dark recesses of what passes for my mind I'm pretty sure there has been one in the past.

Maybe a Broplan vacform?

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Apparently Alliance Models (Who?) did a resin one in 1/72, see here :- http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/august/first-looks/alliance_marut.htm
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Mmm, long out of production it seems.  As rare as rocking-horse pooh, I fear.   Shame, I've always liked the look of the Marut.  :(
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Ah Alliance - I knew it was one of those companies. I've got some of their kits and they did/do good stuff
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Thought they were Lee, had a very familiar look and feel
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A Polish company called Warrior also did a Marut in 1/72 scale, kit #7203, according to the PAK-20 book.  It's a vacuform kit and was available back in 2002 but no info about availability since then.
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IIRC, there was one on eBay about a week or so ago.
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