Enhanced P-36

[ysi_maniac]

Many thanks to all of you  

[Archibald]

Wonderful shape, like a P-40 without its ugly nose scoop...
What prevents me from completely saying this model is lovely are the swastikas - I know the Finsk were not as bad as the Nazi but they were allied of bad ones . As a civil racer, I would LOVE such an airplane...

I thought the same as you Tophe -hey, the finish also adopted the swastikas because they were allied of the Nazis-
For years I saw a profile of a finish Hurricane with a Swastika -looked awful!
In reality, and according to an old Fana (99 era or something like that) the Finish Swatiskas date back of 1918. In fact the first aircraft bought by Finland was gave by a Swedish noble (un comte ou un truc comme ca) which symbol was a blue swastikas. The guy was not a nazi (not in 1918!) and Finish aviators adopted the blue swastikas for their planes until 1946.  

[ysi_maniac]

Wonderful shape, like a P-40 without its ugly nose scoop...
What prevents me from completely saying this model is lovely are the swastikas - I know the Finsk were not as bad as the Nazi but they were allied of bad ones . As a civil racer, I would LOVE such an airplane...

I thought the same as you Tophe -hey, the finish also adopted the swastikas because they were allied of the Nazis-
For years I saw a profile of a finish Hurricane with a Swastika -looked awful!
In reality, and according to an old Fana (99 era or something like that) the Finish Swatiskas date back of 1918. In fact the first aircraft bought by Finland was gave by a Swedish noble (un comte ou un truc comme ca) which symbol was a blue swastikas. The guy was not a nazi (not in 1918!) and Finish aviators adopted the blue swastikas for their planes until 1946.

Yes this has been a nordic symbol since centuries before the nazi party was founded in Germany.

[NARSES2]

Also appears on a lot of ancient Indian and other Far Eastern artifacts. Don't know if it was ever used in pre-Colombian America's ?

Chris

[cthulhu77]

Yes, but typically, it rotates in the clockwise direction, rather than counter...(if you view the arms on the ends of the marking as directional swirls)

[Tophe]

Thanks for these roundel details. So... I LOVE completely this DB P-36 now    

[Archibald]

And this traditional, anoynymous symbol is now representing the worst evil ever on Earth... just imagine a poor Finish or Indian guy resurecting in our days and inocently  drawing swastikas... the guy would go on jail without understanding what he made!!  

[SPINNERS]

Great imagination and superb execution. Well done!

[Martin H]

And this traditional, anoynymous symbol is now representing the worst evil ever on Earth... just imagine a poor Finish or Indian guy resurecting in our days and inocently  drawing swastikas... the guy would go on jail without understanding what he made!!

Well it was reported in one of the national papers over here last weekend that a preist who had noticed several swasticas engraved in the stone work within the main enterance of his church (the engraveing have been dated back to the middle ages, when the church was built) is now trying to bring the symbol back as its original meaning. ei positive rather than the negative we all love to hate.

[John Howling Mouse]

Well, did YOU ever come to the right place to share pics of clever, beautifully crafted models!   Looks like I'll be setting up a new archive photos folder on my HD.

As for what we now (sadly) call "swastikas,"  I too had been really surprised to see that everyone from early North American natives to Tibetan monks have used this symbol for ages before the dorky little Austrian with the funny moustache got his mitts on the idea.  Did a lot of informal research and the archeological and anthropological explanation seemed to be really quite simple: any culture using any form of basket-weaving will eventually stumble upon this bent cross design and might choose to incorporate it in their cultural symbolism (and in both directions).

But the strangest bit of speculation I ever read about the subject is here:

http://www.berzinarchives.com/kalachakra/n...ml#_Toc45478597

[The Rat]

Here's the Wikipedia entry on the Finnish use of the swastika, or, more properly, the 'hakaristi':

Finland

In Finland the swastika was used as the official national marking of the Army between 1918 and 1944, and also of the Finnish Air Force at that time. The swastika was also used by the Lotta Svärd organisation. The blue swastika was the good luck symbol used by the family of Swedish Count Eric von Rosen, who donated the first plane to the Finnish White Army during the Finnish Civil War. It has no official connection to the Nazi use of the swastika but represents the Cross of Freedom, the oldest order in Finland. This, however, remains for some people controversial, because Rosen was later one of the founding members of Nationalsocialistiska Blocket, a Swedish Nazi political party. Rosen also gained a closer connection to Germany when Hermann Göring married Carin von Kantzow, whose sister was married to Rosen. The swastika also appeared in many Finnish medals and decorations. In the much respected wartime medals of honor it was a visible element, first drafted by Akseli Gallen-Kallela 1918–19. The Mannerheim cross with a swastika is the Finnish equivalent of the Victoria Cross, the Croix de guerre and the Medal of Honor.

[ysi_maniac]

OK. Thanks to all of you for your compliments and for that interesting "seminar" about swastikas.

Thanks,
Carlos.

[lancer]

'Swastika' is actually a sandscrit work. Sandscrit being an ancient Indian language.  

[TsrJoe]

that looks really good...nice modelling there...

cheers, joe    

[ysi_maniac]

Happily surprised by your post