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Mustang: F-51, A-36, F-82, Cavalier, and Piper PA-48 Enforcer

Started by nev, January 27, 2003, 11:32:53 PM

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famvburg

I have a couple of the 1/72 RS P-51H's with the intent of making a G and a J. I haven't spent a lot of time with the plastic yet but for the elongated canopy of those two, I have been looking at maybe a Banshee canopy.

famvburg

I have a side view drawing of a proposed R-2800 powered Mustang by Air racing Legend John Crocker. Don't remember where I got it but it is labeled "P51 BEARCAT". Pretty wicked looking. I can't seem to post it so I'm not. I can email it if someone's interested and they can post it.

jcf

Quote from: famvburg on August 20, 2014, 07:12:05 AM
I have a side view drawing of a proposed R-2800 powered Mustang by Air racing Legend John Crocker. Don't remember where I got it but it is labeled "P51 BEARCAT". Pretty wicked looking. I can't seem to post it so I'm not. I can email it if someone's interested and they can post it.

You posted a small version of the drawing in this thread back in 2008,  ;)  it's on page 6:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,11386.msg316115.html#msg316115


PR19_Kit

Quote from: famvburg on August 20, 2014, 06:57:42 AM
I have a couple of the 1/72 RS P-51H's with the intent of making a G and a J. I haven't spent a lot of time with the plastic yet but for the elongated canopy of those two, I have been looking at maybe a Banshee canopy.

I've been working on the same idea too, but the F, G & J canopy was stumping me. It's not only longer than the D & H but it's mounted horizontally too so needs some sort of filler panel to replace the sloping area of the D & H. Your idea about using a Banshee canopy may be just the job.  :thumbsup:
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kitnut617

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 20, 2014, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: famvburg on August 20, 2014, 06:57:42 AM
I have a couple of the 1/72 RS P-51H's with the intent of making a G and a J. I haven't spent a lot of time with the plastic yet but for the elongated canopy of those two, I have been looking at maybe a Banshee canopy.

I've been working on the same idea too, but the F, G & J canopy was stumping me.

If you look at the profile Jon posted a few replies back, you'll see that the canopy on the H is very similar to the F & G, the bottom edge of the clear is almost horizontal. This appears like this on the High Planes H model I have.

But looking at photos and 3-Views of the F,G & J in The Complete Book of Fighters, all you need to do to make any of these is take the H wings and radiator duct and put them on a D fuselage but don't forget to move the tail wheel backwards and put it under the tail-planes. For a canopy, use the D windshield and then use the rear canopy off an F-86.  The H fuselage got a 12" plug behind the duct.
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famvburg

OMG, that was almost 6 years ago! I didn't realize this thread is so old! Thanks for pointing it out! :)

famvburg

I think the Banshee and Sabre canopies are similar anyway.

kitnut617

P-51G perhaps ----  :unsure:





OK, it needs a little bit of work but this looks like a good base to start with.

Forget about what I said to use the H radiator duct, I'll cut the rear half of the duct and tail-wheel bay out and move it backwards, then fill in the space between.
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: kitnut617 on August 20, 2014, 12:26:38 PM
If you look at the profile Jon posted a few replies back, you'll see that the canopy on the H is very similar to the F & G, the bottom edge of the clear is almost horizontal. This appears like this on the High Planes H model I have.

But looking at photos and 3-Views of the F,G & J in The Complete Book of Fighters, all you need to do to make any of these is take the H wings and radiator duct and put them on a D fuselage but don't forget to move the tail wheel backwards and put it under the tail-planes. For a canopy, use the D windshield and then use the rear canopy off an F-86.  The H fuselage got a 12" plug behind the duct.

I did, and I know the 'lightweight' canopies were similar but they wern't the same.

I've got a book on the H itself which has lots of info on the F & G as well and the base of their canopies doesn't incline like those on the D & H at all, it's totally horizontal. That means a D windscreen won't work either because it goes too deep into the fuselage decking.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitnut617

I think what's needed Kit, it the H windshield and then a modified F-86 rear canopy, the Banshee canopy is not much longer than a P-51D one plus it's a different shape.  At the moment the F-86 canopy is a bit wide at the bottom, but if I make a canopy frame out of some styrene I could carefully sand the F-86 canopy bottom edge until I get to where the top of the canopy frame should be, then it would fit I think.
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kitnut617

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Jesse220


pyro-manic

Isn't that basically a Fury? Or stick Mustang wings on a Sabre...
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kitnut617

Quote from: Jesse220 on August 22, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
Any chance of seeing a jet variant of the P-51? :rolleyes:



Real world even ----

Quote from: pyro-manic on August 22, 2014, 02:18:50 PM
Isn't that basically a Fury?

Yes

And that is pretty much the canopy we need for our P-51F,G & J  --- now where is that Siga kit ----  :-\
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Jesse220

Quote from: kitnut617 on August 22, 2014, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: Jesse220 on August 22, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
Any chance of seeing a jet variant of the P-51? :rolleyes:



Real world even ----

Quote from: pyro-manic on August 22, 2014, 02:18:50 PM
Isn't that basically a Fury?

Oh ok Nice  :rolleyes:

Yes

And that is pretty much the canopy we need for our P-51F,G & J  --- now where is that Siga kit ----  :-\