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French prototype colour schemes

Started by TsrJoe, August 03, 2006, 06:45:15 AM

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TsrJoe

hiyas, does anyone have a suggestion as to French prototype colour shemes for circa 1944/45 designs? (iv put together a model of the Riffauld twin engined jet based upon drawings on JC. Carbonel's site!)

i was thinking that overall olive shade as used on captured German types but unsure of its general usage or colour reference?

any help would be great, cheers, joe  :ph34r:  
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I'll toss my hat in as someone else who'd like the same.

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TsrJoe

#3
hmmm... thinking possibly overall olive? (khaki?) or overall silver?
what colour were the FW.190's, He.162, VG/VB.10 etc.
was 3 colour camouflage patterned schemes still in use at this time or only early war period?

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poss one for our French members perhaps?

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GTX

Not sure about prototypes but here are some profiles of the captured He-162 trialed by the French - note the second profile (actually of their third He-162) was repainted in blue:




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NARSES2

On photo's I've seen of the period there is no evidence of the 3/4 colour schemes in use during the period in question. Your best bet would be the "Olive" green colour seen on Ju 88's etc, Olive Drab from US stocks or NMF.

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JC Carbonel

I would suggest overall aluminium as on Triton, first french jet flown in 1946
http://kitbox.free.fr/photoscopes/Triton_P/index.html

if you want to have your machine flown between the Liberation and the end of the war then overall olive with thin black and white stripes (like D-day stripes but thinner) would be an option . the b/W striipes were id-markings for unusual and French aircraft (because we used many ex-erman aircraft I think)

JCC

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By the way , could you tell us what you used as base for your model . I would be interested in making a model too ...

JCC

TsrJoe

#9
Hiya JC. my model of the Riffauld jet bomber is primarily made from a close grained wood (obechi in this case) with the engines modified from an old Frog Meteor resin ones of which i had to hand.

as per my usual current builds i'll be finishing it a 'company display model' style, sans clear transparencies or undercarriage with lined on control surfaces

i have a few other late war/early post war French project models on the go at the moment including 2 of the sweet looking Atar delta designs, hence my interest in finding suitable colour schemes for displaying them in! (is there a colour reference for the olive shade?)

ill try posting some pics of the model on the site and fwd soma as an email for your use.

best wishes, cheers, joe  :ph34r:

ps. does anyone know of any other early jet projects possibly worth modelling? im currently tinkering with the Campini 1942 fighter (similar in form to the forementioned Riffauld!) it should look neat next to my resin Re.2007!
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TsrJoe

just wondering further to the previous postings, is there any confirmation as to the date of the Riffauld drawing, might help in establishing a posible colour scheme?

cheers, joe   :ph34r:  
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TsrJoe

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Archibald

Quotewould suggest overall aluminium as on Triton, first french jet flown in 1946
I agree with that. Maybe some french roundels (with a yellow circle around it), particularly on the sides of the fuselage. French colors (in vertical strips) on the tail, with the name and serial number of the plane on it...
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TsrJoe

Hi all...ill probably go with overall 'aluminium' as a finish this time round as as yet iv been unable to find a colour reference for the shade of overall green used on immediate post war French aircraft types... unless anyone knows different???

cheers, Joe  :ph34r:  
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Jennings

Overall yellow was the first thing that sprang to my mind, but that's too easy :)

J
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