F-106 Delta Dart

Started by uk 75, September 01, 2006, 01:42:11 AM

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uk 75

I was fortunate recently to be shown by a collector a whole series of what-if us project models made by the manufacturers in the 50s-80s. I am hoping he will visit the site some time.  In the meantime I thought I would mention one project that seemed an easy conversion for modelers.

In the late 60s the US were planning to upgrade the F106 Delta Dart and Topping produced a model for Convair of the F106X in the same blue as the F15 prototypes. The plane has Vigilante style engine intakes and a large canard mounted above them.  Other contributors may be familiar with this plane (Deino?), but it seemed a neat What-if.

UK 75

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A canard delta F106, that does sound sweet...
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   ISTR the nose was to be longer & the exhaust was longer & larger due to the new engine as well.

Archibald

Wasn't the F-106X the mach5 variant of the late 50's? It was later named C/D.
I tink that the variant you talk about was the E/F of 1968... but maybe I make a mistake! Joe Baugher website has exactly the details you need (salvo, there's no pictures!)
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f106_4.html
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f106_3.html
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Archibald

I don't know if the E/F had canards, but the F-106X (or C/D) correspond more to what you describe (squares intakes and canards).
 
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Archibald

last post (I'm sorry for the multiple posts!)
F-106X picture
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Jeffry Fontaine

#6
I was browsing Patrick McGee's web page on the F-106 and one of the sections dealt with models of the F-106.  I found a set of images at the bottom of the page that show what appear to be a model of the F-106 built by Convair.  It is a large model and the contents contained in the shipping case show three configurations for the nose, canopy, and weapons.  Also of interest is the addition of another wing pylon inboard of the main pylon that was standard on the F-106.  

Now I am quite familiar with the original single and two seat versions, but the addition parts in the box for the nose and canopy do create some interesting WHIF possibilities for the F-106 that I had not considered.  The extra wing pylons certainly allow for increased capabilities and the options for other fire control systems and radars also gets the creative WHIF juices flowing.  To help in explaining what I am referring to, here are the images for the F-106 model:













As you can see from the second and third images, there are a lot of extra parts and pieces in the box.  Some of these things are very easy to recognize such as the AIM-4, AIR-2, AIM-9 and AIM-7 weapons.  So what does this all mean?  For me, it means that there is now some new possible weapons and aircraft combinations that I had not considered before.  

I am now starting to like the idea of an F-106 armed with AIM-7 Sparrow and AIM-9 Sidewinders, this would make an interesting conversion, especially with the AIM-7 carried on wing pylons and the AIM-9 carried internally.  Other options that spring to mind are a conventional fighter bomber version with bombs carried internally and fuel tanks on the outboard pylons and a pair of AIM-9 Sidewinders carried on the inboard pylons.  

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AeroplaneDriver

When I was looking for pics of a B61 sunshine bomb last week I found an ordnance thread, I think on ARC that had lots and lots of pics of armed aircraft.  One pic was an old one of a -106 with bombs on wing pylons.

So I got that going for me...which is nice....

GTX

#8
There were quite a few 106 proposals.  Some included:

* Various Fighter-bomber proposals (both in single and two seat forms);
* Recon proposals often with cameras in the weapons bays;
* A J-58 engined (i.e. the same engine as the SR-71) proposal;
* A version with 2 GE J93 engines (i.e.the same as planned for the F-108 and XB-70) - this would have a 2 manned crew and engines under the wing similar to the B-58;
* Proposals for Canadian, Japanese, German, Belgian and Dutch 106s - some of these were multi-role versions with underwing pylon use;
* F-106X - apparently this included canards and revised intakes;
* ASAT bird - Under Project Spike, a F-106 was trailed as an ASAT bird using an AGM-78(see pics below); and
There were also proposals for USN F-106s including in the Aggressor role (see model pic below).





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Greg
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SPINNERS

How about a 43sqd machine based at Leuchars?

It was a sexy jet wasn't it?

SinUnNombre

Ok, this has nothing at all to do with whiffing an F-106, but looking at that second picture I had a thought. Modular whiffs! Paint a bunch of parts made for the same plane the same scheme with a case like that. When you get to a model show, you just pick which bits and bobs you want to use to create the whiff you'd most like to display! No? I'll get me coat...

Jon(Who's brain is fried after the Sunday lunch rush.)

dy031101

Once again, the one thing I can think of is to adopt a pair of droptanks similar to those used by Mirage III/5/50- I mean those with hardpoints on them.

Then throw in XAIM-4H.  Internally-carried AA weapons plus droptank-mounted surface attack stores.
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elmayerle

Drop tanks would be best on the inboard pylons (that's where the plumbing in the wing is) and other stores on the outboard pylons and in the weapons bay.

I know the D&S book on the F-106 shows some alternate radar fits considered, including a trials aircraft for the F-15 radar (now that'd make quite an upgrade package, too).  If I was going to keep the J75 engine, I'd consider whether the extra two compressor stages of its sibling GG4 gas turbine generator would provide any extra performance.
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dy031101

QuoteI know the D&S book on the F-106 shows some alternate radar fits considered, including a trials aircraft for the F-15 radar (now that'd make quite an upgrade package, too).
Does it involve enlarging the nose radome (potentially destroying the elegant line of the Delta Dart)?

Otherwise...... hell yeah!  Maybe throw in an upgraded AIM-26B as well.
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noxioux

I had an ambitious project to build a twin-engined Dart, that is still in my spares box, but no closer to completion.  I'd like to get back to it, but wouldn't feel a bit bad if somebody beat me to it. . .

I'd used 2 of the 1/48 Revell kits.  It didn't go quite as smoothly as I'd envisioned it. . .