F-106 Delta Dart

[GTX]

What about a JASDF F-106?

Regards,

Greg

[KJ_Lesnick]

Tell me if this would not be completely and totally bad-donkey...

- Basic design to be like an F-106B

- Guy in back to be weapons system officer

- MG-1 replaced with a modified APQ-50 -w- 24-inch radome (if it's range is superior to the MG-1)

- Internal weapons bay either removed with the exception of the area a gun-pack would occupy in the sharpshooter mods, and the rest of the weapons bay replaced with fuel, or the internal weapons bay removed completely and replaced with fuel to compensate for any fuel-reduction brought on by having a tandem cockpit.

- 4 x AIM-7's flush-mounted on the fuselage

- Rather than having a single pylon on the wing, having two pylons on each wing, perhaps one could be attachable/detachable.  One would carry a fuel-tank, the other would carry a double-mount like the F-4's have and would carry 2 x AIM-9 on the pylon (a total of four).  Possibly provision to carry bombs on the four-wing pylons in an air-to-ground load-out.

- Idle thrust reducer removed, and a thrust reverser put in that place (when stowed it would basically act like the idle thrust reducer, when engaged, it would be like the J-37 Viggen).

- Leading-edge flaps and drooping elevons to allow lower landing-speeds with the same alphas, or the same landing-speeds with a lower alpha.


It would be able to do what the F-106A could do, it would have reduced work-load, the weapons armament would be better and more versatile, and it could land on shorter fields


KJ Lesnick

[rickshaw]

Found the Advanced F-106 project with 'Sky Scorcher'  missile on Secret Projects & Orionblamblams Unwanted Blog, via Secret projects.  Similar to the F-106 X, but with noticable differences.
http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=4514

A megaton yield air-to-air missile? What were they smoking?

I just love the assumption that underpinned the nuke A-to-A missile programs:
that the Soviets would attack in an über-version of a WWII USAAF European-campaign
bomber formation. 

Errr, that wasn't the thinking which underpinned USAF development of nuclear air-to-air missiles.  What underpinned their development was their relative cheapness and effectiveness versus the missile homing systems then in use.  A Genie didn't need to hit the target, just get close enough to use the massive shockwave to knock it out of the sky while also frying its systems and its crew.

If you wish to see the assumption you're describing, just look at British fighter development in the 1950s!

[KJ_Lesnick]

John Carr Farrelly,

A megaton yield air-to-air missile? What were they smoking?

Maui Wowie with Labrador...


Rickshaw,

Errr, that wasn't the thinking which underpinned USAF development of nuclear air-to-air missiles.

Actually, that was largely the thinking behind the development of nuclear air-to-air missiles which implies a guided self-propelled weapon.

What underpinned their development was their relative cheapness and effectiveness versus the missile homing systems then in use.

Well, in regards to guidance systems, the GAR-11/AIM-26, and GAR-9/AIM-47 both utilized guidance systems as well as a nuclear-warhead, so money was obviously spent to develop them, so there wasn't a price-tag reduction.  It's true that you would have a much higher probability of a kill with a nuke, but some of these weapons did have guidance systems in addition to nuclear weapons.

A Genie didn't need to hit the target, just get close enough to use the massive shockwave to knock it out of the sky while also frying its systems and its crew.

The Genie is not a missile, it's a rocket -- it's unguided.  That was developed, at least partially, to avoid the complexity of a sophisticated guidance system, by simply producing a big enough explosion to only require the missile to be fired in the general direction of the target to be able to take the plane out.

[Cobra]

ever see the Movie 'Gamera the Invincible'? the Strategic Fighter that was seen on Patrol was an F-106! you might be able to check it out on youtube to see what i mean.Dan

[GTX]

Pure rocket '106:



Regards,

Greg

[Chris707]

Besides the poor PK of the early AAMs, there was also the need to ensure the destruction of the weapons being carried by the bomber - the early nukes were pretty sturdy looking things, and might have survived the carrier airframe being shredded, and with salvage fusing would still do damage wherever they ended up falling.

Hmm.. a pure rocket Dart! You could have it carried to altitude under a B-58B (you'd need the extra thrust to deal with extra weight) and launch it to engage exo-atomospheric targets, or as a recce platform. Of course, you'd need NF-104 style RCS thrusters, some manner of heat shielding...

[Weaver]

Loads of good F-106 pics on this thread: http://www.solomaquetas.com/board/index.php?showtopic=5600

[thundereagle1997]

Would this be a perfect design for an F-16 replacement Zero-Sen?
https://www.deviantart.com/armoredryukenshi1984/art/F-53A-view-X-930754798

[Captain Canada]

Loads of good F-106 pics on this thread: http://www.solomaquetas.com/board/index.php?showtopic=5600

File not found.

[zenrat]

Loads of good F-106 pics on this thread: http://www.solomaquetas.com/board/index.php?showtopic=5600

File not found.

Check the date of H's post Cap'n.

[scooter]

Loads of good F-106 pics on this thread: http://www.solomaquetas.com/board/index.php?showtopic=5600

File not found.

Check the date of H's post Cap'n.

Better (and kept registered) source for Six photos: https://f-106deltadart.com/

[thundereagle1997]

What I mean the intakes of the F-20 close mounted canard foreplanes for better high and low speed control similar in design to the stol f-15 canted vertical tails a conventional horizontal tailplane and a robust 360 degree bubble canopy with cannons mounted on the sides of the fuselage
Like this
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2FF-16drwB_ak.jpg&hash=be76ddfb64cec5bd1b90ded5aabcd8a3693c98e2

[Captain Canada]

Thanks guys. Time flies as fast as a 106 without a pilot ! 

[Weaver]

Sorry Captain, didn't see your original query: been a bit busy.

Yep, old post: things don't last forever on the internet...