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Mossie

#15
September 28, 2006, 05:18:59 PM
Archie, I've adapted the profile from the 3-view to remove the lift engine pods:



And while I was at it, knocked up a profile of a RAF Kingston C.1:



Bearing in mind I've just seen Thorvic's post & it might not be a proper representation of the finished machine!  Not quite sure if the engines are right either, but it gives you a general idea.

Simon.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

kitnut617

#16
September 29, 2006, 06:55:14 AM
You'ye getting really good at this artwork Simon, I'm really impressed  :wub:

:cheers: Robert
If I'm not building models, I'm out riding my dirtbike

Mossie

#17
September 29, 2006, 07:34:51 AM
I might put a couple more together over the weekend, along with a few more Rotodynes, it getting easier the more I do!

Trouble is it's eating into my modelling time!

Simon.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

TsrJoe

#18
September 29, 2006, 08:27:36 AM
your profile looks good to me...go on give it the same treatment you gave the Rotodynes...i cant wait to see it in the old stone and earth scheme and std camou!

(hm i wonder how a 'gulf pink pig' would look?)

:ar:  
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Mossie

#19
September 29, 2006, 08:54:24 AM
I can do that!

Simon
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

harrier

#20
September 29, 2006, 12:20:55 PM Last Edit: September 29, 2006, 12:26:14 PM by harrier
Chaps

Below is a profile I did of the final version of 1965.

The earlier versions were to be able to be adapted for VTOL, although STOL initially. Later on it was seen that adding the option of VTOL penalised the STOL version so it was abandoned in favour of STOL.
BAe P.1216 Supersonic ASTOVL Aircraft ProjectTech Profile: http://www.harrier.org.uk/P1216.htm

"If there is a more tortuous tale in the history of aerospace than the long pursuit of a runway-free fighter, the author has not heard it." Bill Sweetman

harrier

#21
September 29, 2006, 12:30:51 PM
And here's the GA it is based on (found the jpg Thorvic!).
BAe P.1216 Supersonic ASTOVL Aircraft ProjectTech Profile: http://www.harrier.org.uk/P1216.htm

"If there is a more tortuous tale in the history of aerospace than the long pursuit of a runway-free fighter, the author has not heard it." Bill Sweetman

Mossie

#22
September 29, 2006, 03:44:59 PM
Nice one Harrier!  The only version I've seen similar to that is the one with the Comet wing.

More profiles, as promised, of the earlier design HS.681, almost identical to some of my Rotodyne ones:


HS Kingston C.1 RAF Transport Command tropical scheme


HS Kingston C.1 RAF medium sea grey/dark green over white 1970's


HS Kingston C.2 RAF dark sea grey/dark green over light aircraft grey 1970's/80's


BAe Kingston C.3 RAF dark sea grey/dark green wraparound 1980's


BAe Kingston C.3 RAF desert sand Gulf War 1991

Simon.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mossie

#23
September 29, 2006, 06:41:47 PM
Quote(hm i wonder how a 'gulf pink pig' would look?)

I'd been thinking about adding nose art to my Gulf War machine & couldn't really find anything suitable, but when I saw this I thought of Joe's comment above!



I just had to add it (minus the banner at the top), can't really make it out, but I know it's there!



Simon.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mossie

#24
September 30, 2006, 04:13:30 AM Last Edit: September 30, 2006, 04:17:28 AM by Mossie
Gorgeous renderings mrdj!   :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

Were'd you find them???

Simon.

EDIT, worked it out, from Harriers Air Enthusiast article that Thorvic mentioned!
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mike Wren

#25
September 30, 2006, 05:56:12 AM
nice profiles Mossie, must try to figure out how to kitbash one in 1/144...  ;)  

Mossie

#26
October 01, 2006, 04:02:17 PM
I'd love to see that Mike!

A C-17 might make a good basis, when a manufacturer finally gets round to kitting one!

Simon.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Archibald

#27
October 02, 2006, 01:14:39 AM
So we have a heavy cargo transport using the Harrier lift system, but just for SHORT take-off and landings. Now that's seems a good idea...
Simon, those profiles are cool!! The rendering look similar to planes pictures.com.
PS It's Noratlas (thinks it come from the Atlas mountains in Marocco). I'm a Mirage-fan, but I try to avoid the nationalistic tone you can find on some ARC or KPAF threads (on this subject, I destroyed the naughty thread I've made on the subject here)  
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Geoff_B

#28
October 02, 2006, 04:12:07 AM Last Edit: October 22, 2006, 07:22:17 AM by Thorvic
Quotenice profiles Mossie, must try to figure out how to kitbash one in 1/144...  ;)
If the 1/72 version i'm currently working on comes off then it may be possible to scale it down to 1/144 equivilants. The C-17 is way to big the 681 is around the Hercules/Cub size just better designed for the period (Built in STOL Performance, sponson mounted main wheels that don't restrict the cargo deck, that sort of thing).

G

Mossie

#29
October 02, 2006, 05:59:29 AM
Cheers Thorvic, I always forget just how big the C-17 is!  That squat stature always decieves me, although when I saw one at Waddington I got a true feeling for it's size.

Still a much larger aircraft, but how about an Il-76 with a substantial forward fuselage chop & shortened wings?  It'd need a lot of work, but it has that hump for the wing spar & a very similar tail & wing layout.

Simon.

PS, I look forward to seeing that 1/72 beast your working on!
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.
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