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New soviet interceptor...

Started by Archibald, October 13, 2006, 11:36:43 AM

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Archibald

In the late 70's, a KH-8 donkey ear satellite took this photo some hundreds kilometers over Domodedovo. It was obviously a new Russian aircraft... NSA, CIA, DLI all the service were in alert...



King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

GeorgeC


Archibald

Hmmmm I'm very, very far from Matrixone level (king of "more-than-real" models).
This was my first atempt :P
Ok, here's the beast...
In the 60's, the soviets massively introduced heavy interceptors (Tu-128, Su-15, MiG-25). Each of them responded to a precise need
- Su-15 was a "conventional" inteceptor guided by GCI
- MiG-25 added speed to that
- Tu-128 had range

Now what the Soviets needed was a plane with more AAM as all the interceptors above only carried four. The plane also needed a big range to reinforce the
Tu-128, and in a similar way to the Tupolev was to have a reduced speed (this time mach 1.2).
After Krutchev was fired in October 1964, Simeon Lavochkine (as Myassichtev in 1967) managed to create for the second time an OKB for aircrafts. He won the competition for the long-range AAM platform with a radical design, the La-270.

To reduce cost, the plane used the short and medium-range AAM in development for the MiG-23. Older missiles from the MiG-21 were also used. These designs were not particularly efficient but the plane carried a big number of it (it was really a long range AAM platform, not more!)
The mach 1.2 speed combined with an enormous wing area (Ie high ceiling, around 68 000 ft) was sufficient for its role.

King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Hobbes

Cool idea. It's got 10 missiles?


Archibald

After meeting one of the Horten brothers, Lavotchkine opted for a big flying wing design. There was room in the wing to carry a big amount of fuel, room below the wing for hanging a big number of missiles and less drag (good for range). More, the big wing area (around 150 m2) allowed a good maniability a high heights.

Main problem was the inherent lack of stability of these designs. As the CDVE - particularly in USSR- were still some years in the future, the only solution was to add vertical surfaces.
Starting from the Horten general design, canted wingtips were added, but this was insufficient. A vertical tail (similar to the MiG-23) was then added, but this was still unsufficient. Two smaller tails finally gave "acceptable" handling... reduce to nothing when the plane had more than 10° of incidence (the tail were blanked by the huge wing).  
That's why an enormous, fourth (!!!) vertical fin was added...  below the fuselage. This in turn needed a very high undercarriage...but well, there was space in the wing!
Crew was two below a small canopy. The two turbojets (borrowed from the
MiG-23) were fed by an oval air intake, with the radar radome on it. This was quite similar to the La-190 design...



King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Archibald

King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Brian da Basher

Woah that's wild, Archie! She looks ready to take on all comers! I like that all black color scheme...very intimidating! THis has got to be one of your most imaginative builds yet!

Brian da Basher

Ollie

I see that the Soviets have mastered the wooden runway...

Archibald

It is a land-based carrier, with four wheels (in fact it look like a big table) they used for STOL . In fact it was the soviet reply to the short P-17D (the flying thing allowing the TSR-2 to make VTO :wacko:  :blink: )

In fact I had a madness moment some days ago. I have a stock of spares left by various building, particularly Mirage-2000 wings (two Mirage F-2 and one Mirage  G mean three M2000 slaughtered). I also had a big stock of russians AAM, many fins (Viggen, MiG-23, Mirage 2000  again).
So the result is here :P

King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

John Howling Mouse

Truly inspired, Archibald.  :wub:  :wub:

And a bonus: it also looks like something Batman would fly!

Styrene in my blood and an impressive void in my cranium.

Eddie M.

Very cool! I especially like the gloss black finish. Well done!
   Eddie
Look behind you!

Archibald

thanks for the cheers comments! The canopy come from a Fouga Magister, main wheels from the Mixfortress (former B-29... I have to finish this one!), decals from a MiG-23. For the intake I use the same glue caps as the N-21 aiguille. It's really a flying patchwork!!!
I have to find a NATO name for this thing...  
hobbes, I added ALL the russians AAM I had in my spare box  ;)
In fact it carries 14 AAM (four bigs from the MiG-23, two bigs from the MiG-21 and the rest look like some kind of AIM-9 equivalent...)
Concerning the black paint, I think I had the Su-47 in mind...
Lots of fun doing this model. All started from these 3 pairs of delta wings... I tried for some minuts to find the better way of assembling all these remains, and the result was (quite logically!) a big... flying wing.
Hmmm wing area of the Mirage 2000 is around 46 m2, so it gave something like 138 m2 of wing area  :blink:

ZA RODINA!!! as would say our productive comrade  ^_^


More pics


King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Archibald

To diminish costs, a design similar to the La-190 had been used for the the radome/ air-intake combo...



La-270

Span 20m
Length 11m
Wing area 138 m2
Speed mach 1.25
Range 4200 km
Armement :
4* Vympel R-23
6* R-60
2* R-13
Ceiling 68 000ft
Powerplant two R-29 rated at 10 000 kgp each

The role of the La-270 was to operate at long range, guided by Tu-126 "Moss".



King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Tophe

[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

B777LR

I like da name of the satelite :lol: