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Started by Archibald, November 07, 2006, 06:57:25 AM

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Archibald

November 07, 2006, 06:57:25 AM
On demand of B-777LR the other day :)

This was my old B-29 highly modified with bubble canopy, T-tail, jet pods ala Caravelle. I planned to replaced the R-3350 by T-56 (from a C-130) but this seemed wrong. In fact the fuselage looked quite "modern" whereas the wings and radial engines looked old fashioned...
Only solution was getting ride of the engines, but this implied cutting the wings in 6 parts... after much hesitations I finally decided to go forward.
In the end I knew that cutting the exterior engines would complicate things, they are part of the wing.
The two jets on the rear are quite unsufficient I agree... the good news is they come from Mach2 Falcon-20 (which has two pair of different engines) and I plan to buy another (to change into a Carreidas 160). This mean two more engines for this thing... other problem is to know WHERE to place it on the plane. As I just love the Martin XB-51, I think it could be cool having two more jets hanged below the cockpit :)
In brief : here's the result.




 
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

B777LR

#1
November 07, 2006, 07:17:34 AM Last Edit: November 07, 2006, 07:18:55 AM by B777LR
weird but beutiful, and... german! Looks like luft `46

If you want to make the fuselage and wings look better, try glue some tin foil on, with PVC glue  B)  

Mossie

#2
November 07, 2006, 07:53:26 AM
Yeah, looks very Blohm & Voss-ish, a bit like their W winged bombers.  Good job Archie!
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Archibald

#3
November 08, 2006, 01:30:12 AM
Glad you enjoy it, guys! wooksta, I've not yet  a precise idea for the engine location, so every suggestion is welcome :)  
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Jamatari

#4
November 08, 2006, 03:18:55 AM Last Edit: November 08, 2006, 06:54:50 AM by Jamatari
What about the engine in the fuselage ? some big side mounted intakes near the middle gunner position



B777LR Wrote
"If you want to make the fuselage and wings look better, try glue some tin foil on, with PVC glue"

I've covered my b-29 in foil well 40% it looks good but ive go bored now and gonna try some of that alclad II stuff to finish it  





James
http://www.exfix.co.uk --Kits and whatifs

Brian da Basher

#5
November 08, 2006, 06:10:59 AM
Woah arhcie this one is sooo cool it rocks! I really like your modifications, especially the canopy and the T-tail (I'm sure Baz will agree)! What kind of paint scheme and markings do you have planned for it?

Brian da Basher

Archibald

#6
November 08, 2006, 07:04:46 AM
Russians markings, for sure! I plan to add big number below the fuselage (you know, things like 006, 47 or 105. Never understood what this numbers meant). I've got 74 (or 47) left by my Heller Viggen.
Do you think this grey color (humbrol 56) fit well to a Soviet aircraft ??  :unsure:

I'm still reflexioning over the engine location...
ala VC-10 would be something (adding two engines to the two already in place!).
On pylons (2 or 4) below the wings...on the wingtips...above the wing...
I really want to keep on with the rear turret, so I don't think that there will be internal engines...
I'm really thinking about a M50-like engine location (engine on FSW wingtips  :wacko: )

The main undercarriages were fixed in the  turrets holes (the rear undercarriage even use the pivot of the turret  B)
Wheels come from the Jag / P.146, the canopy from a P-47.
I'll check the former thread...
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Archibald

#7
November 08, 2006, 07:56:03 AM
Here's the old thread
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...2&hl=xb-40&st=0

I've tried wingtips engines+nacelles below the cockpit.
Here's the result...

Just posting that, I've got a f....antastic idea!
Heller has made a C-135FR... I could ask them the four engines pods!!! Now that would be something!!!!
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

B777LR

#8
November 08, 2006, 08:20:00 AM
How could you possibly ask a non-excisting company for parts that they produced when they excisted?

Archibald

#9
November 08, 2006, 08:30:18 AM
^_^  Knowing you Mr Boeing-san  I think it's a joke, related to another thread...
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

B777LR

#10
November 08, 2006, 09:55:56 AM
:mellow:  :blink:  :huh:

:cheers:  

Archibald

#11
November 08, 2006, 10:54:28 AM
Ok, two jets on the wingtips, and two on underwing pylons  
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

frank2056

#12
November 08, 2006, 01:22:33 PM
I like the design; the bubble canopy looks great! The center of gravity could be further back towards the tail; maybe it's the FSW but the plane looks tail heavy.

I like the engines next to the cockpit; they remind me of the XB-51 and Ju-287 - I think an extra set under the wings would look better than wingtip engines. A failure in one of the wingtip engines could force the airplane into an unrecoverable spin.

Frank

Archibald

#13
November 08, 2006, 02:04:47 PM
Frank I think I already fiound your website some weeks ago -maybe a link gave by a member here, I think it was on your German jets collection- .Good work, really!!!
In the end, maybe two jets below the cockpit and the other two in wing pylons.  
And I'm also a great fan of the XB-51 (cool but unlucky aircraft. What was the problem with this one ?? :huh: ) an extraordinary looking aircraft!!!  
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Archibald

#14
November 08, 2006, 02:25:30 PM
That's right, the engines now seems too little...perfect as boosters for piston-engines, too little now...
works stop now for some days... see you soon guys!!!  
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.
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