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Started by naoto, November 21, 2006, 07:50:40 PM

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naoto

Just wondering... any of you guys into rubber F/F?

Also wondering if any of you guys might now where I might be able to find rubber F/F plans for a J7W1 Shinden?  I want to have a companion to the XP-55 Ascender that can be found here:
http://www.theplanpage.com/esp.htm

And since I'm on a "what if" modeller's board, what are your thoughts on how the J7W1 and XP-55 would've done against each other (and to be fair, we would probably need to allow the XP-55 to have a better engine than it had to settle for).

Of course, I'm somewhat tempted to build the J7W1 in Nekomi Institute of Technology markings, and the XP-55 as the "All Star Special"...

And along the same lines, we've all seen the Hasegawa kit depicting the J7W2 which is a jet variant.  Ever wonder what a jet-powered adaptation of the XP-55 would've been like?  Of course the Lockheed L-133 looks pretty nifty.

Tophe

Apart of the XP-55 and Shinden, have you considered their British and German equivalents of those years? The whole could make a very brilliant gallery.

Will we have a canard-man here, like we have a T-tail man, a Twin-boom man, a Spat-man, etc? Glenn once told me of a great interest in canards. Wouldn't that justify a Group Build?
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

naoto

Yup, I'd like to have a collection of comparable aircraft from various nations from that same time period, though I can't think of any right off hand that reached a similar stage of development (I'd appreciate any information regarding examples of such).  I can probably think of more tailless or flying wing types than those of canard planform.

jcf

Diels sells plans:
Diels Plans

The Italians had the  SAI Ambrosini S.S.4


I suppose you could include the Miles Libelulla projects...even though the intent was different and they are more tandem-wing aircraft than canard aircraft..


BTW the XP-55 has also been described as a tailless aircraft with a forward trimming surface...in other words not a "true" canard aircraft.

Also I don't believe the German's built any canard hardware, their stuff was pretty much all Napkinwaffe vapourware. Although Focke-Wulf did build the A.19 airliner in 1927:



Cheers, Jon

elmayerle

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Frankly, after doing my graduate stability and control project on the XP-55, I wouldn't dream of going up in one 'til a good artificial stability system was developed; my ghod, did that one have problems!!!
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Jschmus

"Napkinwaffe vapourware"

I like that.  It's very apt.

Naoto, do you have any images of the NIT color scheme?
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seavixen

QuoteJust wondering... any of you guys into rubber
My wife quite likes it but I find it makes me a bit sweaty!   :lol:  
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naoto

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QuoteDiels sells plans:
Diels Plans

The Italians had the  SAI Ambrosini S.S.4

I suppose you could include the Miles Libelulla projects]

Thanks!  I'll have to look up info on these.

Quote"Napkinwaffe vapourware"

I like that.  It's very apt.

Naoto, do you have any images of the NIT color scheme?
The only reference I have for the NIT markings is from the Hasegawa kit (I got the 1:72 kit, missed the 1:48 release).  I currently don't have the manga (I'll need to find out when the Shinden appeared) to see if there are more images.  Nope, no images of the NIT markings in the volume of FAOW (Famous Aircraft of the World) which features the Shinden -- it would be scary if it did, considering that the FAOW volume pre-dates the "Aa! Megamisama" manga.

As for the All-Star Special, I need to locate more info on it, and have only see a few images in the All Star Squadron comics series (gotta locate the reprint volumes to see if I can obtain more reference images).

Tophe

Quotethough I can't think of any right off hand that reached a similar stage of development
Among what-ifers, there's no accute need of actual development during those years... Old "cancelled projects" or "secret projects" are good enough to inspire, no? At least for some of us, like me, not interested in noisy killing machines but just in shapes :wacko:  
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

jcf

QuoteAt least for some of us, like me, not interested in noisy killing machines but just in shapes :wacko:

With ya there, Tophe.

Most of the Luft'46 stuff leaves me cold, but some of the larger designs are fun to imagine as airliners.
I have the volume of the series "Vom Original Zum Modell" on the Focke Wulf FW 200 airliner and in the book is a photo of a Ju390 airliner in Junkers house markings...very cool.

BTW in the back of the new Docavia book "les Pacqebots Volants' there is a small section on other nations flying-boats and in that section there is a small illustration of a Sikorsky design for a twin-hulled flying boat with retractable planing bottoms ala the Blackburn B.20...tres magnifique.

Cheers, Jon