Boeing 737 Tanker...

[B777LR]

and we`re getting more ideas here...how often did you ever think of what world would look like if Trident became succeful?  

[jcf]

and we`re getting more ideas here...how often did you ever think of what world would look like if Trident became succeful?

The same, except that there would be more '727' sightings.  

Cheers, Jon

[GTX]

Greg, wheh was that art. on the KC-17 pub.?

Sorry, I should have said - 18 Sep 1996.

Regards,

Greg

[B777LR]

Just wait till you all see my CKCPT-40A!

[GTX]

Well, It's not a 7373, but it isn't exactly large either, but the Israeli's are reportedly looking at a tanker variant of the G550:




See here for more info.

Regards,

Greg

[nev]

KC-17 sounds awful expensive to me, compared to the usual option of converting second-hand airliners...

[Shasper]

Or mothballed C-141s  

Couldnt resist mate. . .  :ar:

Shas B)

[Jennings]

Or mothballed C-141s  

Couldnt resist mate. . .  :ar:

Shas B)

Only problem with C-141s (other than TF33 engines) is that they started having a nasty habit of cracking to pieces.  A friend's brother was a crew chief in one of the last units, and he said they got VERY proficient at drilling stop holes to prevent crack propagation in things like windshield frames.  Not good...

J

[Scooterman]

Or mothballed C-141s 

Couldnt resist mate. . .  :ar:

Shas B)

Only problem with C-141s (other than TF33 engines) is that they started having a nasty habit of cracking to pieces.  A friend's brother was a crew chief in one of the last units, and he said they got VERY proficient at drilling stop holes to prevent crack propagation in things like windshield frames.  Not good...

J

Hell my airframe was doing that back in the early 90s!  And boy did the interior get wet when it rained.  Poor bird always had pressure problems and water would somehow find its way in when it was downpouring.....

And lets not forget the A/C packs going out, or cranky APUs or stupid electrical gremlins that had a way of burying themselves WAAAY back in the circuit breaker banks.

Still miss her...........sometimes!

[Iranian F-14A]

I remember seeing in a book some years back a proposal for a KB-1B Lancer.I guess they were looking at mounting a boom right on the tail and using the weapons bays for fuel tanks.Thought it looked pretty interesting at the time.

[Jennings]

I remember seeing in a book some years back a proposal for a KB-1B Lancer.I guess they were looking at mounting a boom right on the tail and using the weapons bays for fuel tanks.Thought it looked pretty interesting at the time.

You can get in trouble in the military (the US military, anyway) for smoking that stuff

A KB-1.. yeah.  Right.  Just after they build the KF-22 or the KA-10



J

[Eddie M.]

I remember seeing in a book some years back a proposal for a KB-1B Lancer.I guess they were looking at mounting a boom right on the tail and using the weapons bays for fuel tanks.Thought it looked pretty interesting at the time.

You can get in trouble in the military (the US military, anyway) for smoking that stuff

A KB-1.. yeah.  Right.  Just after they build the KF-22 or the KA-10



J

Why not? KA-6D rings a bell. KF-18D, KS-3B....... Yea I could see the KB-1A. That would be a good thing to do with the airframes after Carter killed the program. Or the Bones sitting out in the boneyards. Lots of good what ifs possible. This topic has given me the idea to make a KC-737 out of one of my 1/200 scale birds to refuel my 757/727 hybrid.  
   Eddie

[Matt Wiser]

The two aborted Navy tankers were the KA-6H (a tanker variant of the EA-6B) killed by Mr. Peanut in '79 (60 aircraft was the planned buy), and the KS-3A, which would have had the ASW equipment, the two rear seats, MAD, sonobuoys, etc. removed, and extra fuel tankage added, with the HDU in the weapons bay. And the two external tanks would have been permamently attached to the aircraft. Lockheed made its proposal to NAVAIR, which didn't proceed with the project.  

[B777LR]

A KB-1.. yeah.  Right.  Just after they build the KF-22 or the KA-10



J

Oh, and dont forget, KB-2 and KF-117  

[jcf]

I remember seeing in a book some years back a proposal for a KB-1B Lancer.I guess they were looking at mounting a boom right on the tail and using the weapons bays for fuel tanks.Thought it looked pretty interesting at the time.

You can get in trouble in the military (the US military, anyway) for smoking that stuff

A KB-1.. yeah.  Right.  Just after they build the KF-22 or the KA-10



J

Why not? KA-6D rings a bell. KF-18D, KS-3B....... Yea I could see the KB-1A. That would be a good thing to do with the airframes after Carter killed the program.
   Eddie

Hard to do as they only built four prototypes.
After the program was terminated in 1977...with the blessing of the DoD and the USAF as they weren't happy about the costs and were having doubts about the need for the aircraft in its designed role, aircraft three and four continued testing ECM and attack systems until April 1981, the testing was funded by Carter defense budgets. In 1978 the DoD called for an aircraft to replace the B-52 as a  cruise-missile transport, Rockwell put forth a proposal for a test program using aircraft three. Both Rockwell and the Air Force continued to study B-1 developments, including the Long Range Combat Aircraft program (also funded by Carter defense budgets). When the decision was made on October 2, 1981 to select the B-1B over the FB-111H for the LRCA role Reagan authorized the purchase of 100 B-1B. In 1982 the USAF and Rockwell signed the full-scale development contract, included in that contract was the modification of the four B-1A prototypes to B-1B standard.

So ya see there were no airframes to spare and the "Carter killed the B-1, Reagan saved the B-1" line so often used, is an oversimplification.