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Spey Powered Super Sabre

Started by van883, April 11, 2007, 02:39:22 PM

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van883

April 11, 2007, 02:39:22 PM
Looking through the June 1964 issue of Air Pictorial I found a pic of a model of a Spey powered Super Sabre (very small and not worth reproducing) shown at the 1964 Hanover show. Seems very strange that this was proposed in 1964! Anyone know anything about it?

Van

Jennings

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April 11, 2007, 03:36:20 PM
I've heard of it.  Proposed to the RAF (naturally), but I don't think it ever got beyond an idea backed up by a small GA drawing.

Interesting possibilities for whiffing though!

J
"My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over." - Gerald R. Ford, 9 Aug 1974

Geoff

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April 11, 2007, 03:46:26 PM
Spooky that I picked up an F-100F in 1/48th at a club meet tonight and was thinking about an MEAF Hun.
Do any of our engineers know if it would need a bigger intake or fatter fuselage?????????? :huh:  

Jennings

#3
April 11, 2007, 03:52:26 PM
You couldn't *possibly* put a bigger intake on the Hun without totally ruining it.  That intake defines the characteristic look of the entire front end of the airplane.  Do as you will, but don't ruin that beautiful nose!

:)

J
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Geoff

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April 11, 2007, 04:08:11 PM Last Edit: April 11, 2007, 04:09:37 PM by Geoff
QuoteYou couldn't *possibly* put a bigger intake on the Hun without totally ruining it.  That intake defines the characteristic look of the entire front end of the airplane.  Do as you will, but don't ruin that beautiful nose!

:)

J
Don't worry I think such major surgery is beyond my capabilities anyway, and as you say it's a lovely looking bird as it stands.
Maybe I'll just do a paint job, sand, earth, and night; or fit an AB from an F-102 which I think they were rebuilt with in real life.  :huh:

elmayerle

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April 11, 2007, 05:52:54 PM
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QuoteYou couldn't *possibly* put a bigger intake on the Hun without totally ruining it.  That intake defines the characteristic look of the entire front end of the airplane.  Do as you will, but don't ruin that beautiful nose!

:)

J
Don't worry I think such major surgery is beyond my capabilities anyway, and as you say it's a lovely looking bird as it stands.
Maybe I'll just do a paint job, sand, earth, and night; or fit an AB from an F-102 which I think they were rebuilt with in real life.  :huh:
I suspect that an inlet that'll handle a J57 will likely handle a Spey, at least as fitted to British Phantoms (the TF41 is based on a later Spey with a larger core and is of greater diameter).  A number of F-100D/Fs did get fitted with the F-102 AB nozzle late in life as F-102s were retired before these F-100s.
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Jennings

#6
April 11, 2007, 06:00:03 PM
You picked up a 1/48 F-100F model?  Really?  No such thing exists!  Only a couple of resin conversion kits for the venerable Monogram Hun.

What exactly *did* you buy!? :)

J
"My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over." - Gerald R. Ford, 9 Aug 1974

NARSES2

#7
April 12, 2007, 02:04:35 AM
QuoteSpooky that I picked up an F-100F in 1/48th at a club meet tonight and was thinking about an MEAF Hun.
Do any of our engineers know if it would need a bigger intake or fatter fuselage?????????? :huh:
Geoff - MEAF sounds fantastic, but go 112 Squadron - Sand/Dk Earth/Azure Blue with a shark mouth  :wub:  
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Radish

#8
April 12, 2007, 02:22:15 AM
Once did a "history" of 112 Sqn.....after Hawker Furies, they had the Sabre (real) and Hunter (real) but then went to the Super Sabre as indivated above.
The Sqn Ldrs aircraft had a full sharkmouth extending the bulk of the fuselage length apparantly. :lol:  
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April 12, 2007, 03:05:53 AM
sounds really interesting...any chance of posting up a scan of the pic? wondering if there were any obvious differences from std?


cheers, Joe
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van883

#10
April 12, 2007, 10:50:58 AM
The pic in the mag is VERY small and low res-I have no scanner so took a photo!



cheers

Van

Geoff

#11
April 12, 2007, 11:13:41 AM
QuoteYou picked up a 1/48 F-100F model?  Really?  No such thing exists!  Only a couple of resin conversion kits for the venerable Monogram Hun.

What exactly *did* you buy!? :)

J
BUGGER IT! I just had another look at the box and it's 1/72!  :angry:
Its the AMT/Ertl kit, I didn't look in the box as it was still sealed in the shrink wrap. Silly me. <_<  

Geoff

#12
April 12, 2007, 11:18:31 AM
Thank you Evan and Van, thats what I needed to know, It will still get done as a MEAF plane but I also picked up some WB-177s in 1/72, so I want to do a 2 seat F-100K interdictor to replace the F-84s; whilst waiting for the F-105K's

I still have a Monogram 1/48th F-100D that I got off Radish recently, so the I still might do that as RAF as well, as the USAFE used the Hun for nuclear strike in Euroland.

Captain Canada

#13
April 12, 2007, 11:53:20 AM
Neat stuff. Maybe we should all build a 100 ? A CF-100 !

;)

Seriously, tho, I love the mighty Hun. That old Monogram 48th scaler was an absolute beauty.

:cheers:  
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Daryl J.

#14
April 13, 2007, 02:45:46 PM
Geoff,

The F-100F kit is quite decent so no worries there mate.

Now, if Monogram had tooling  for the 100F tucked away like the PhotoPanther......... :wub:  :wub:  :wub:


Daryl J.
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