Colours For Banff Strike Wing Mossies ?

[Captain Canada]

Hi gang !

I can't for the life of me find my "great book of WWII aeroplanes" that had some really wicked paintings in it......so can somebody point me in the direction of some colour pics of these birds ? Or tell me what the actual colours were ? I bought some at my LHS but I'm not sure if they are correct.

TIA !

 

[Mossie]

Cap'n, I'm pretty sure that most Banff Strike Wing Mossies tended to be Dark Sea Grey over white although there were other schemes as well such as the standard Dark Green/Ocean Grey over Medium Sea Grey.  Anything else like spinners, invasion stripes etc. you'll need to check individual references.

Some profiles here, you'll have to sift through them:
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/b/77/9/3
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/b/77/9/4
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/b/77/9/5

There's some three views for general schemes on Don Colour, although they don't include the Bannf wing.  Click on 'Camouflages' (on the left), 'Aircraft', then 'by type', then 'Mosquito' from the list:
http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/main_e.htm

EDIT, Changed instructions for viewing the Mossie profiles on Don Color.

[Mossie]

Oh, & if your not sure how these colours relate to the paint range you use, this chart from IPMS Stockholm should help you:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/s...orcharts_uk.htm

[Jennings]

I believe the Beaus and Mossies were EDSG (or possibly DSG)/Sky.  AFAIK white was not authorized as an undersurface color on either of those two types during WWII.

J

[Mossie]

J, this document on RAF web suggests Extra Dark Sea Grey (oops!) for "Special Coastal Dutie Scheme A" with Glossy White undersurfaces, although sky was certainly used.  Thanks for correcting me.
http://www.rafweb.org/sqn_codes2.htm

Todd, heres some more profiles for the Banff Strike Wing on the RAF Organisation Air of Authority site.  You might need to scroll down to find the right squadron & the corresponding Mosquito profile:
235 Sqn: http://www.rafweb.org/SqnMark235-240.htm
248 Sqn: http://www.rafweb.org/SqnMark247-248.htm
333 Sqn: http://www.rafweb.org/SqnMark331-360.htm
404 Sqn RCAF: http://www.rafweb.org/SqnMark400-407.htm

If you particularly want to do 404 Sqn being a Canadian squadron, the colour scheme seems to be Dark Green/Medium Sea Grey over Medium Sea Grey (sounds confusing!), you can find it under "Mosquito RAF 1942 Nachtjagd Schema Mosquito RAF 1942" on the Don Color page I mentioned above.  Oh yeah, double check your references, as I can cock things up, adequetly demonstrated above!!! :dum:

Simon.

 

[Captain Canada]

Thanks for the help, Mossie ! I think the colours I got are correct ( RAF Ocean Grey, RAF Dark Green, RAF Med. Sea Grey ) I kinda like the overall grey.........so now I need to decide which way to go. It looks like I also need the Sky colour for the undersides as well.

I sure wish I could find that stinking book !

 

[Radish]

Hey Cap'n, don't forget that Squadron Leader James "Nancy" Digger had a PINK Mosquito with white/red codes. Previously, his Beau X had white and yellow spots on a PINK airframe.
I dreamt about it last night so it must be true.
Same as when I dressed as an Ostriche and a croc bit me on the neck.

[Captain Canada]

Ya, that's what colours I'm gonna go with, Wooksta ! DSG over sky w/ yellow spinners.....just to cool looking !

And no pink !

 

[datguy]

[snip]

White was only ever used as an undersurface colour on maritime patrol aircraft whilst Extra Dark Sea Grey has only ever been used by the Royal Navy.

I don't think the latter half of that statement is accurate.  

The RAF temperate sea (slime and sewage) scheme was Extra Dark Sea Grey and Dark Slate Grey.  Undersides could be sky, or (as stated ) white for ASW planes.

Also, the special RAF low-level reconnaissance (fighter reconnaissance) scheme at the end of WW2 was Extra Dark Sea Grey and Extra Dark Sea Green over PRU Mauve.

I believe the controversy over whether the strike wing aircraft were EDSG/Sky or DSG/Sky remains unresolved.  I think the photographic evidence best supports EDSG with considerable weathering bringing it to a tint closer to DSG.  Touched up areas look darker, suggesting unfaded EDSG.

DG

[Jennings]

They were definitely DSG over Sky.  White was not used as a lower surface color on those type a/c during the war.

J

[Maverick]

Jennings,

Those Mosquitos not in the Temperate Sea upper scheme were not in DSG. It was EDSG.  This was an exception to the rule, but the overall grey was definitely not DSG.   This information comes directly from "RAF Camouflage of WW2" by Michael Bowyer.

Regards,

Mav

[nev]

They were definitely DSG over Sky.  White was not used as a lower surface color on those type a/c during the war.

J

I'm pretty sure I've seen a pic of a white Beaufighter......gimme a while to go and check


edit:  told ya!    

[Jennings]

whilst Extra Dark Sea Grey has only ever been used by the Royal Navy.

Unless you count the myriad USAF types that have used it in its FS595 guise

J

[NARSES2]

Well the photo's in my copy of "A Separate Little War - The Banff Coastal Command Strike Wing 1944-1945" show a mixture of disruptive and solid camo on the strike aircraft upper surfaces. Only white underside is a Coastal Command Liberator.

One interesting shot has a lifeboat equiped Warwick with the lifeboat painted black/white

Chris

[P1127]

The latter Banff Strike Wing Mosquitos were EDSG/Sky (as were the Beaus)

There were some A/S Beaus that had white undersides