WHIFs from ARC

Started by Riksbar, May 25, 2007, 12:25:17 PM

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Jschmus

You know, it took me looking at my kit of the J21 to see all that.  My bad.
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Quote from: ChernayaAkula on April 14, 2010, 09:43:05 AM
Hmmm, "somewhat" found at ARC. Wasn't actually posted at ARC, but linked to. Seen at the IPMS Open 2010, somewhere in Sweden (I guess).

Saab J 21B.





Damn nice model.  I have read of the proposed SAAB J-21B. This was a to be a post-war upgraded variant, with a Rolls-Royce Griffon or Packard Merlin inline engine, a pressurised cockpit, heavier armament and a bubble canopy,  It was however overtaken by the jet J-21R development.  

Is that the only picture available?  I ask since I'd be curious to see what engine is in it: one of my sources (Air Enthusiast No. 23 Article by Peter Billing) reports that initially SAAB wanted a DB 605E engine for the J-21B but with the collapse of the 3rd Reich this was not an option.  Alternatively, they redesigned to accept the Packard Merlin.  This however had a lower speed of rotation of the propeller and thus needed a larger diameter prop with the resulting tailboom interference problems.  Preliminary contact was made with Rolls-Royce to investigate changing either the gearing of the Merlin or to fit a 5 bladed prop of smaller diameter.  Eventually however, it was decided that the Merlin installation was too costly and complicated for marginal increase in performance.  This led to the project proceeding along two lines:

1.  The existing DB605B engine but with 100 Octane fuel and some minor modifications (?) was able to get almost the same power as the Merlin; and
2.  The J-21R jet version, initially with home-grown STAL turbojet and eventually with the de Havilland Goblin turbojet.

I have also read that the original DB 605 run on 100 octane fuel was just as good (if not better) than the other engines.  For one, the prop/boom interference wasn't a problem as the other engines might have been.  To date, the best images I have found of this proposed design are these:




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Greg
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Cliffy B

Don't know if this is old or not but I thought it was rather neat.  Definitely haven't seen one before.

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ChernayaAkula

An outstanding1/48 J-35 Draken from the anime "Area 88", built by "Oishi":





More of that >>HERE<<.
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Moritz


Must, then, my projects bend to the iron yoke of a mechanical system? Is my soaring spirit to be chained down to the snail's pace of matter?

GTX

Interesting - at first glance I thought it was a French Draken.

Regards,

Greg
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Jschmus

That's doubly whiffy, because in the anime, Shin Kazama starts the campaign flying an F-8 Crusader, then "upgrades" to an F-20 Tigershark.
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pyro-manic

F-8 to an F-5E, then an F-20 IIRC. ;) It's a stunning model. :thumbsup: I've wanted to do some Area 88 builds for a while - the commander's Kfir was pretty cool, and there was a trio of "bad guy" Lightnings that looked fantastic.
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Taiidantomcat

That is a superb looking model  :wub:
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ChernayaAkula

Quote from: GTX on April 23, 2010, 02:48:58 PM
Interesting - at first glance I thought it was a French Draken. <...>

:lol: My thoughts exactly!

French Draken, huh? Hmmmmmm...... :wacko:
Cheers,
Moritz


Must, then, my projects bend to the iron yoke of a mechanical system? Is my soaring spirit to be chained down to the snail's pace of matter?

ChernayaAkula

More "Area 88" goodness by Oishi:


F-20 Tigershark  :wub: More pics >>HERE<<.





Cheers,
Moritz


Must, then, my projects bend to the iron yoke of a mechanical system? Is my soaring spirit to be chained down to the snail's pace of matter?

Taiidantomcat

"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gaultier

"My model is right! It's the real world that's wrong!" -global warming scientist

An armor guy, who builds airplanes almost exclusively, that he converts to space fighters-- all while admiring ship models.

GTX

All hail the God of Frustration!!!

ChernayaAkula

Found via ARC:

Navalized Su-47 Berkut:














Cheers,
Moritz


Must, then, my projects bend to the iron yoke of a mechanical system? Is my soaring spirit to be chained down to the snail's pace of matter?

GTX

Wow!  Has an invite been sent?

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

Taiidantomcat

That is just brilliant!  :wub:
"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gaultier

"My model is right! It's the real world that's wrong!" -global warming scientist

An armor guy, who builds airplanes almost exclusively, that he converts to space fighters-- all while admiring ship models.