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Who would be up for the Flying Sorcery GB?

Started by Mossie, June 02, 2007, 11:33:31 AM

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Mossie

This is one I've been thinking about in the back of my mind for a little while ever since I got Bill Rose & Tony Butlers Secret Projects: Flying Saucer Aircraft.  And then I saw HOG's wonderful German WWII saucer & it came to the forefront of my mind again.   With VTOL going hand in hand with many real-world saucer projects, this could produce some intresting additions to Martin H's Viff Whiff as well.

The ideas a simple one, build an aircraft that could roughly be called a flying sacuer.  Not a sci-fi build, although theres no reason you couldn't do Testors Roswell or Area 51 UFO's as a USAF back engineered aircraft or whatever.  Space projects are okay too, as long as they're earth based.  Circular, parabolic, parasol lenticular, flying wings, lifting bodies or just very peculiar shaped aircraft could all be in.

As always, anything from a mainstream kit to a full kit bash to a would be elligible.  There's several off the shelf kits available too, Horten Ho.229, Vought XF5U-1 Flying Pancake, Testors UFO's I've mentioned, Notrhop B-2, & plenty of resin stuff, especially from Sharkit, Unicraft (they do a several of the Avro flying discs between them) & Anigrand if you want something oob as well as (probably) plenty I can't think off right now!

Okay, who'd be up for it???
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dragon

You can also find the snap build NX-01 Enterprise fairly cheap.  That has kitbashing potential as well as scale-o-rama possibilities.  Just a thought. B)  
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TsrJoe

id be up for this one...whats the rules/timescale, etc...


cheers, Joe
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Mossie

Well, looking at the GB calender, it's probably going to be Q1 next year.  Timescale, probably about four months, to give those that are a little slow in building time to finish as well as allowing more elaborate kitbashes.

Rules, something along these lines, they're not hard & fast, just a very quick draft of the basics.

1. Build a model of a flying saucer aircraft.  Can be a real project or something from your imagiantion, from any era of aviation up to the near future, 2050ish.

2. The model doesn't have to be a pure circular winged aircraft, it can be anything from a flying wing to a pure sacuer to just a very peculiar aircraft that on sighting may cause any self-respecting Red-Neck to go running for his shot gun!

3. Space craft are welcome, but more from a 'plausible' earth based scenario rather than a full on sci-fi kind of thing.  You can use a sci-fi kit as a basis for a build.

4. OOB(ish) builds are fine as is any level of kit-bashing.

5. Prizes are way off sorting out, but they'll probably be something like Rose & Butlers Flying Sacer Aircraft book, Hase's XF5U Flying Pancake & something else I can't think of yet.

These are really rough, I'm just canvasing interest at the moment.
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Daryl J.

I could do that time frame.   And the local grocery store always seems to have some kind of sale involving dinner plates and tea saucers.......... :o  :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:



Daryl J.

Radish

You will perhaps have seen those drawings of '163s and '262s with circular wings>
A sort of fuselage morphed into a dinner plate?
Cool.
Thinking '262 :lol:  
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Mossie

Could well be Dragon, would make sense.  I'm recalling from memory, the mind can be a fickle thing & mine in particular!

Archie, I'd love to see those of the Statodyne, it's a type I know nothing about.  Boeings 390 is another one that is done by Unicraft.  It's really worth looking at Unicrafts, Anigrands & Sharkit's sites for resin kits of this kind of aircraft, & there's a suprising amount of Injection kits too.  Worth having a browse through their pages, if just for ideas:

http://www.geocities.com/unicraftmodels/uniavail.htm
http://www.anigrand.com/catalog-1.htm
http://renax.club.fr/sharkit/news/news.htm
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

dragon

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I have the Monogram reissue of the flying saucer from THE INVADERS.  It is impossibly plain and featureless.  Therefore it is begging for something fun to be done to it.  I am thinking of kit bashing it into a 1/144 USMC Landing Craft.  Maybe give it a "retro" grey, green, and black camo paint job.  Perhaps call it LC-1 USMCS KHE SANH? B)
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TsrJoe

...one of my personal favourite kits is the old 1950's (subsequently reissued) Lindberg 'flying saucer' a really neat kit which comes complete with a 'lil green man' pilot and glow in the dark plastic, iv read that it was also one of the first fictional space subjects to be produced in injection moulded form too!

I recall building one of those many many years ago and finishing it in a bright silver with USAF. markings and cut down 'normal' pilot, certainly loked the part!

Other 'flying saucer' kits iv found through the years are the Bandai 'Adamski type' saucer to 1/72'ish, again very 1950's in style, the forementioned 'Invaders UFO.' from Aurora/Monogram with its neat interior detailing looking very circa 1960's, 'Polar Lights' beautiful 'Forbidden Planet' 'C.57D saucer' and 'Lost in Space', 'Jupiter 2', oh and not forgetting the infamous 'S4 disc' from Testors, all of which look pretty neat in a basic US. Air Force scheme, lol!

Oops almost forgot another 'flying saucer' model, i recall Airfix doing one back in the early 90's, it looked rather blocky and bitty and didnt bother picking one up at the time...hm..might make a suitable basis for one of those fictional 'Nazi saucers' tho complete with gun turrets! ... ill see if i can find one around the shows!

... in the spirit of the build, there is of course the old standby...my local 'pound store' has a rance of plastic plates of differing diameters which would make for a pretty neat 'stealth disc' !

happy modelling, cheers, joe  :dum:

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elmayerle

So who's going to do the "Plan 9" saucer of the upside-down pieplate?
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dragon

QuoteSo who's going to do the "Plan 9" saucer of the upside-down pieplate?
Those are made of aluminum (tough to work with), besides, just adding a hatch to it vastly improves the work actually done by Ed Wood on his movie....Now a pie is starting to sound good! :lol:  B)  
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"I must really be crazy to be in a looney bin like this" - Jack Nicholson in the movie ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST

Mossie

A pie would be easy to work with!  Even better if it's a pork pie.....

If anyones got a Hellers E-2 or E-3 in 1/72, or a Revell in 1/144 or a Trumpeter 1/144 A-50, the dishes might make a good basis for a circular wing.  Special Hobby are due out a 1/48 Hawkeye too.

Another Testors kit that might work well is their 'Roswell UFO', do something with the fins & you've got an almost ready made saucer-type aircraft.
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frank2056

There are a couple of fun and simple UFO kits in addition to the ones mentioned above.

The Light Force "1/864" scale UFO takes all of 5 minutes to put together and has plenty of potential.

Their "triangular anti-gravity craft" is less of a deal. I don't have it, but by the pictures it looks like two model stands glued together.

Speaking of model bases - a lot of old kits (Lindberg, especially) came with nice round bases that make excellent UFO material!

Frank

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Speaking of model bases - a lot of old kits (Lindberg, especially) came with nice round bases that make excellent UFO material!

Frank


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Take the base from the Dragon Bachem Natter, some EMA/Plastruct half spheres, a couple of discs of poly card and you have a hubcap design from the 50`s............tick..........tick.........tick..........tick.........tick...bing -take a hubcap from a mk1 Ford Sierra and cut out the middle man.

Count me in.  
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TsrJoe

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