A Different Land Based F-18

[B777LR]

Other versions of the Hornet that never where:

A-18 (Bomber version)
F-18 (Fighter version)
TF/A-18L (2 seat land version)
F/A-18R (recon, also known as RF-18A)

[Shasper]

While the Navy canned the RF-18 in favor of keeping the 'interim' F-14 TARPS, the ATARS recce suit was installed in a handful of USMC F/A-18Ds

Both the F-18 and the A-18 do exist, just in the same aircraft.

Shas (who hates the GD Bugs) B)

[B777LR]

Both the F-18 and the A-18 do exist, just in the same aircraft.

I know, but thats a different aircraft  

[Archibald]

Mako

Shas B)

Nope, Mako is what I'm currently building (from a X-35).
I've heard somewhere that Ysi has 12+ models on the bench...  

How the Mako going archie? Pics

It goes quite well (after some difficulties with its canopy)  
I'll show pics... one day. I don't want to hijack this thread  

I think that, at the beginning, the USN wanted A-18s and F-18s, Ie two differents variants. Both were finally merged into the... F/A-18, thanks to the glass-cockpit concept. I don't think the A-18 and F-18 would have been externally different except... their weapon load  

and I remember having seen a pics of those USMC recon Hornet on a french forum,, I think the pic came from airliner.net... these Hornet have a big bump below the nose to house their recon pack, a bit like the Mirage F1CR.  

[ysi_maniac]

As elmayerle is working in F-18L, I have decideded to call it F-18M or, perhaps, F-18K.

As it is land based the folding wing mechanism will be deleted.

Tape assembled, a la wolfik.

[wolfik]

 

[ysi_maniac]

I need some help:
do you see the piece between tailfin and fuselage?
I need ideas to "decorate" it: exhausts like Tornado, chaff/flare dispensers, aerials, antenae, braking parachute, ...

[wolfik]

by the way...the U-2 tail has a better shape....and is bigger
my idea ?...
...look about some newest SU-35/37 tails....they has nice "things" afterwards B)  

[Shasper]

Looks kinda like the "banjo" assembly used to mount the fin on the X-29 & F-20.

Shas B)

[kitnut617]

an engineer could probably say (Evan ?) but the fin area looks about the same as only one of the twin fins area, I would have thought that if you went with a single fin the area would have to be about the same area as the two fins put together and look like how a Tonka fin in size does.  

[fallenphoenix]

saw this last night, ok the Taiwanese bird looks more like the single fin Bug idea but thought I' throw this in anyway:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthrea...ead.php?t=73077

looks like the Iranians have been busy kitbashing real F-5's again lol

[Rafael]

Great build, Carlos. As for what to put under the tailfin filler, well, maybe a chaff/flare dispenser and on the other side, a supplemental intake or a little bulge for a jammer?

Great one.

Rafa

[elmayerle]

an engineer could probably say (Evan ?) but the fin area looks about the same as only one of the twin fins area, I would have thought that if you went with a single fin the area would have to be about the same area as the two fins put together and look like how a Tonka fin in size does.

No, I do believe it's a larger fin area than either of the F-18's regular vertical tails, but I'm not sure if it's large enough.  If I was going to do a single-vertical F-18, I'd likely start with either the vertical tail from the F-16 and reshape it's profile or take a leaf from the orginal F-16XL concept and use a horizontal tail as an all-moving vertical tail.  Hmm, I'll have to play with that concept.

[ysi_maniac]

Considering both fins (a sigle F-18's and mine, from an old Hasegawa Viggen) as trapezoids, I measured and the surface is exactly the same. So kitnut617 is right. But the piece under it contributes to stabilization, I think, and mine is more backwards. Anyhow, I am increasing the surface by a 40%. Following Evan's comment, I will increse further the movable area.  I prefer the Viggen's fin shape to that of F-16, because it reminds me F-5's, which is in F-18's origin.

Thanks

[elmayerle]

Well, what you might do is fill in the rudder hinge lines and scribe lines at the base of the fin to indicate an all-moving surface. That still gives you plenty of control authority while allowing you to use a smaller fin size.  As I said, I'm tempted to do one using a F-18 horizontal tail as the all-moving vertical tail.