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Fiat G91 ''Gina''

Started by Mike Wren, November 17, 2004, 06:25:59 AM

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Quote from: ysi_maniac on March 26, 2022, 04:18:33 AM
Is it possible to conceive a turbo jet that works as such but a part of its power is derived to a shaft that moves a propeler? Or a turboprop whose exhaust thrust is relevant (more than marginal)?

Generally, yes.

However, you need to accept that you're not going to be able to get the same power as from a dedicated jet engine if you're drawing power from the turbines to run the turbo-prop.

I don't know what the power loss would be but it will be significant.
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Some of today's ultra large turbofans ARE turboprops with a hefty jet exhaust really.

It's just that the 'prop' has a LOT of blades and it's enclosed in a duct.
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Roberto139

Quote from: ysi_maniac on March 26, 2022, 04:18:33 AM
MustanGina
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Propulsion is not decided yet.

Is it possible to conceive a turbo jet that works as such but a part of its power is derived to a shaft that moves a propeler? Or a turboprop whose exhaust thrust is relevant (more than marginal)?

Lovely What-if, perhaps with a counter rotating propset similar to the wyvern, removing the 30mm chin cannons and adding them to the wings would be astounding!

Roberto139

Upon further inspection I pitted a 1/72 Mustang against a G-91R from Meng, surprise surprise, they are about the same length, so  the G-91 would not require shortening, but perhaps just moving the cockpit a bit back to allow for the turboshaft transmission.
I'll get to work on one.
It's going to be a nice pair with my F4U-6TP/F3G-2TP Turboprop Corsair kit.

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 26, 2022, 10:54:25 AM
Some of today's ultra large turbofans ARE turboprops with a hefty jet exhaust really.

It's just that the 'prop' has a LOT of blades and it's enclosed in a duct.

They're on a continuum really: some of the largest turbofans have geared fans now. What it really boils down to is that you keep making the fan diameter bigger and bigger until the duct costs you more in weight than you gain from it in propulsive efficiency, at which point you leave it off and call the engine a turboprop (or a propfan).
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Quote from: Roberto139 on March 27, 2022, 10:13:01 AM
Upon further inspection I pitted a 1/72 Mustang against a G-91R from Meng, surprise surprise, they are about the same length, so  the G-91 would not require shortening, but perhaps just moving the cockpit a bit back to allow for the turboshaft transmission.
I'll get to work on one.
It's going to be a nice pair with my F4U-6TP/F3G-2TP Turboprop Corsair kit.

Look forward to seeing that  :mellow: :thumbsup:
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ysi_maniac

Fiat G.91 structure is inspired by F-86 but Gina's nose is IMO just perfect

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Gina with Skyhawk vertical and horizontal planes

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Dizzyfugu

Looks nice, but unfortunately it's not "to scale", so that hardware versions would not work.  :-\


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Fiat G.91Y equipped with AGAVE radar

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