The Heretic's Thread

[Daryl J.]

I  simply cannot touch a F-106 other than for spurious paint schemes.

Heretical treatment of the craft would necessitate a triple-wide cabin, one for the trainee, one the pilot, and one the crew chief.   And since it's a triple-wide, it would have to be in Oklahoma ANG markings and the emblem a fried chicken wing.  


I'd find a Piper J-3 Cub sporting low wings and a Wilga engine about the same.  


The TSR.2 with a straight wing?


Daryl J.

[Maverick]

Given the nature of who we are and what we do, I don't personally believe that there's anything remotely heretical.  To one person it might seem the most obscene abomination every put into pixels or plastic, whilst another would think it's 'just right'.

Whifs come, like the creators, in many flavours.  At the end of the day, everything we do, regardless of whether it's a proposed project whif or sublime lunacy is heresy to the JMNs of our 'hobby'.

I say that we just bask in our heretical ways and enjoy the slings & arrows of those mainstreamers.

Regards,

Mav  :dum:  

[upnorth]

I have been thinking of a P-38 with Bristol Centaurus engines in perhaps a post war context, say Royal Egyptian Air Force going up against the Israelis.

Was also thinking about a P-38 with Napier Sabres too.

Can't really explain it, but there has been for a very long time a little voice in the back of my head urging me to intermarry the P-38 Lightning and Hawker Typhoon/Tempest families.

[Mossie]

How about anything 'non-American' in US markings?  Buying foreign can be a political hot potato in the US & I'm sure there's a few people out there that might be wound up by such an idea.  

[Ian the Kiwi Herder]

Heresy, I'll give you heresy.....

1 Take a fresh from the factory Hawker Hunter
2 Remove the engine
3 Extend the nose
4 Add to the extended nose a RR Double Mamba engine, complete with five bladed contra-rotating props.....
5 Leave the conversion NMF complete with all the patchy metalwork the rest of the airframe in camouflage.

.....et voila

Hawker HunterScreach

(See what I did there...... I took something truly beautiful, made it ugly and hi-jacked an American name, by which to call it   )

Ian

[Madoc]

Folks,

Okay, you want heresy?  No problem.  I got your heresy right here...

A DeHavilland Mosquito - in natural metal finish as they decided to dispense with all that finicky woodwork!

Same lines, same size just made in the conventional fashion and thus now suitable for a full-on Alclad rendering.

Do that and watch the JMN heads start bursting!

Madoc

[wagnersm]

Think of some of the weird stuff done in the 'real' world?

Radial Engined Lockheed Lightnings (Model 322)
In-line engined B-17s (BOEING-LOCKHEED VEGA XB-38 FLYING FORTRESS)
In-line engined B-29s (BOEING XB-39 "SPIRIT OF LINCOLN")
DC-3 on floats
Douglas B-42 Mixmaster.
P/F-82 Twin Mustang
Boeing B-17G / Consolidated B-24 (http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/B17G.php)

We're just  doing what everybody else does.

Steve

[kitnut617]

Think of some of the weird stuff done in the 'real' world?

DC-3 on floats

Steve

Yeah! like this:

[Brian da Basher]

Heresy?
How about spats on a biplaned Raptor, Rafale, Mirage, Viggen, Typhoon, Arrow or TSR.2?

Brian da Basher

[B777LR]

Heresy?
How about spats on a biplaned Raptor, Rafale, Mirage, Viggen, Typhoon, Arrow or TSR.2?

Brian da Basher

Parasol wing Eurofighter Typhoon with spatted tail dragging landing gear and open cockpit...

[jcf]

Think of some of the weird stuff done in the 'real' world?

Radial Engined Lockheed Lightnings (Model 322)

Steve

The Model 322 was not a radial engined P-38, rather P-322 was the designation of the non turbo-supercharged ex-French/stillborn RAF Lightning I used as a trainer by the US.

The Model 24 was one of the radial proposals.

Jon  

[wagnersm]

Think of some of the weird stuff done in the 'real' world?

Radial Engined Lockheed Lightnings (Model 322)

Steve

The Model 322 was not a radial engined P-38, rather P-322 was the designation of the non turbo-supercharged ex-French/stillborn RAF Lightning I used as a trainer by the US.

The Model 24 was one of the radial proposals.

Jon

Jon

Oops,   Thank you for the correction.

Steve

:dum:  

[Daryl J.]

Hopefully this turns into a teen-age "Watch this! (evil grin)".  

ARC is putting on a -109 group build right.....so.......what would be wrong with doing a cloth wing wonder?        
Backstory to involve some little known variant of the E series and a fabic wing, no wing guns, odd (to Germany) cammo.   A fabric covered rear fuselage could  be included too, but it just wouldn't really look all that great and the wing is enough visual impact to wad up all sorts of unmentionables.    

I'm thinking a paint scheme of overall Tamiya grey-green that was just released for the Zero 21 kit.  Monochrome tends to show of detail better.  Hee-hee!


....would a declaration of "De Herretico Carborundum" be called?



Thanks to Squadron's massive Tamiya Mosquito sale this month, a pair of 1/72 Mossie bombers are in the stash......would anyone object to me building the metalized version mentioned above?     Credit to be given to Madoc, the instigator of course.  It may actually get titled 'de herretico carborundum.'  



Daryl J.

[Archibald]

I have been thinking of a P-38 with Bristol Centaurus engines in perhaps a post war context, say Royal Egyptian Air Force going up against the Israelis.

Was also thinking about a P-38 with Napier Sabres too.

Can't really explain it, but there has been for a very long time a little voice in the back of my head urging me to intermarry the P-38 Lightning and Hawker Typhoon/Tempest families.

That's an idea I have had, too. Maybe you can build it starting from a P-49 or a P-58, one of the two was a P-38 with bigger engines, not too far from british 24 cylinders engines.

Maybe you could buy two unexpensive (and crap) Heller's Typhoon, cut their noses and graft them onto a P-38.

In fact result of such kitbash would fit nicely between the P-38 and P-61. Let's say the P-38 was too old and the Black Widow too big to make a decent  long-range day fighter... never understood why the Firefly was so slow while having a big Griffon engine and 2000 hp.  Sounds a waste to me!

Got an another idea, this time with the Fairey  Firefly. Why not building a single-seat variant by cutting a chunk of its rear fuselage ?
This could be a competitor to Typhoon and MB-3 circa 1944, and give FAA a better interceptor than the Seafire...

[Mossie]

How about anything 'non-American' in US markings?  Buying foreign can be a political hot potato in the US & I'm sure there's a few people out there that might be wound up by such an idea.

It may wind others up for reasons that you don't suspect.

Your right Lee, intriguing......