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F-18 and F-17 Hornet

Started by Radish, January 20, 2004, 01:04:14 PM

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Weaver

#45
January 28, 2009, 07:15:00 AM
Yeah - my favorite wing/tail combination!  :thumbsup:

Another thing you could do is extend the booms beyond the trailing edge of the upper fins, mount the lower fins behind the upper ones, and have the end of the boom rotate through 180 deg to get them clear for landing. That would avoid any stores/flaps clearance issues with sideways folding fins.
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KJ_Lesnick

#46
February 03, 2009, 07:08:36 PM
I think it would be more practical to use the regular F/A-18 tailfin set-up...  the current tailfin gets in the way of the wing-folding which is necessary to operate on carriers...

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Shasper

#47
February 04, 2009, 10:56:19 AM
Just remove the angle from the verts & it'll be ok!

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KJ_Lesnick

#48
February 04, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
Shasper, some folding wings fold more than 90-degrees.  Unless the tailfins canted inwards it wouldn't work.

Regardless, the tails as they are work just fine at high alphas...
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

Jeffry Fontaine

#49
February 07, 2009, 12:45:19 AM Last Edit: July 29, 2010, 04:19:14 PM by Jeffry Fontaine
How about an F-18 with the wings from the F-15? 

MDD did produce some conceptual artwork of an F-15 with an F-18 style wing as a proposed improvement several years ago. 
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KJ_Lesnick

#50
February 07, 2009, 11:13:14 AM
Jeff,

Sounds like an interesting idea.

Another idea I'm fond of would be adding the booms on the F-16 (they're on either side of the fuselage aft of the wing all the way to the tail and mount the speed brakes and horizontal stab) to the F-18


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dy031101

#51
February 11, 2009, 08:05:51 PM
A simple exercise of fitting the F/A-18E with canards, courtesy of Konami and their Airforce Delta Storm for the first XboX......

The aircraft is named Airacobra II in the game......
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#52
February 11, 2009, 09:09:03 PM
McDD's idea for the Super Hornet, as shown in the Aerofax F/A-18 book, is sort of like a cross between a Hornet and a Gripen -- rear mounted delta wings with upwardly-canted canards in place of the LERX. If my scanner was working (grrr) I'd scan it in for all to see.

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#53
February 11, 2009, 09:33:09 PM
Very neat stuff, and I look forward to seeing that Delta Superbug, Rally.  Should be very interesting.
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#54
June 27, 2010, 11:57:02 AM
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,18207.msg304969/highlight,aggressor.html#msg304969

just found out from an Ilmavoimat pilot at Kauhava that the Hornet i surmised was in a possible 'aggressor' scheme' was in actuality 'photoshopped' to appear dark emphasising an enemy type in the footage, bummer!  :banghead:

ah well, i stil fancy modelling it as a 'what if' anyway

cheers, Joe  :thumbsup:
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#55
July 29, 2010, 12:09:54 PM
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#56
July 29, 2010, 12:33:05 PM
It does indeed work!

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Chris707

#57
July 29, 2010, 01:44:53 PM



One wonders if there would be a single major part in common...nah...
"Ultrabug"... kinda like the sound of that....

Chris

ChernayaAkula

#58
July 29, 2010, 03:39:24 PM
Those CFTs are rather subtle, aren't they? They stand out like the dog's danglies on the F-16s, but it took a second glance to see them on the Rhino.

Is that a "stealthy" drop tank? Neat idea!  :thumbsup: Wonder if it could be coupled with the stealthy AAM carriage on the Silent Eagle? A somewhat "stealthy" way of carrying AAMs and fuel!
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#59
July 30, 2010, 07:45:20 AM Last Edit: July 30, 2010, 07:46:59 AM by Shasper
CA, I think thats a stealthy weapons pod. . . Read somewhere that Boeing was looking into that.

  Taking a look at the artwork, I wonder if they'll refit the dogtooth from the Growler?At anyrate, I'm thankful that they're going with the IRST mounted under the nose ala F-14, that whole bit about sticking it on the front of a droptank was crappy in the first place!
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