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Fitting Jet Engines To Single Engine Props...

Started by B777LR, January 02, 2008, 06:27:27 AM

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B777LR

Some months ago i did a jet spitfire. It had a jet engine mounted below the nose, which makes it rather heavy in the nose. I was browsing the web today when i spotted this wee little jet, and thought that it might be worth trying next time! What do you guys think?

http://www.newpiper.com/piperjet/

Devil_505

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Personally, I'd like to see that Jet Spitfire.

If you plan on doing anymore prop-jets, then I suggest looking at exsisting prop-jet designs for better reference, such as the following:

FR Fireball
F2R Dark Shark
XP-81
Do 435
XF-15
Br.960 Vultur (French site with images, English Wikipedia article without images)
XF-84H Thunderscreech
XF-88B
The last two are actually jets with propellers fitted on them.

B777LR

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QuotePersonally, I'd like to see that Jet Spitfire.


I did mean jets fitted on prop powered aircraft, replacing the prop :dum: But this idea of 2 powerplants is very good!  

gooberliberation

You could also go with a bifurcated exhaust like in the Hawker Sea Hawk, either with wing-root intakes and a pointy nose or normal wings with a nose intake. I think it'd be fairly elegant.

If you're going the wee-jet route, perhaps have one in each wing root or in pods? The piperjet style would look awkward even for a 1940s jet fighter.
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The PiperJet is a neat design.  The engine placement allows for a huge cabin for the size of the aircraft.  The Diamond (the most advanced project, already flying) and Cirrus area both also developing single-engine jets (VLJs-Very Light Jets is the industry term for all these new jets)  Eclipse have been delivering twin engine Eclipse 500s since early last year, and surprised everybody when they showed up at the Oshkosh airshow with a single-engine demonstrator that was VERY impressive when it flew. 

All of these new designs have the engine mounted in the fuselage with side intakes except the PiperJet.  I'm not 100% sure if the materials available in the 40s would be strong enough to support an engine installation like this.  Evan may be the guy to ask about that. 
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

B777LR

Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on January 06, 2008, 10:13:35 PM
All of these new designs have the engine mounted in the fuselage with side intakes except the PiperJet.  I'm not 100% sure if the materials available in the 40s would be strong enough to support an engine installation like this.  Evan may be the guy to ask about that. 

Yup, it is a very nice design. A local firm called Air Alpha who is the only dealer of pipers in the baltic and russia has sold a lot of them to russia already :)

I suppose a Tucano/Pilatus light trainer would be better than a spitfire (in regards to materials)? This could make for a very nice light jet, with ability to fit a proper radar in the nose for AMRAAMS ;D

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Hi folks,

New thread for possible whiff conversions of piston engined fighters.  I'm thinking of creations similar to the Me-109TL (either single or twin engined) or Yak-15 (based upon the piston-engined Yak-3U):





How about a Mitsubishi Zero converted as such or a Re-2005?  What other ideas?

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FFVS J-22 into J-22R (probably a bad idea considering how much woo is used in the J-22)


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How about a Tigercat or Lightning?

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Ain't without precedent, the first was probably the Saab 21R. You could also think about turbo conversions for bombers like the Lancaster/Lincoln...


...or the Amiot 143! (sorry, had to sneak that in somewhere  :lol:)
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Longer, skinnier turbojets on any Gloster Meteor.


Turbojets imbedded in the wings of a Republic Rainbow ( oh goodness, I'm almost sweating.....)


Bruce Craig, of www.f84thunderjets.com fame has a Republic P-47 Thunderjest underway....turbojet powered of course.   


Round-nosed Herc with 4 turbojets used for the US Army as a hack, US Post office as a transport, etc.......ie something where ultra-quick acceleration for short fields is less important.


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Quote from: Daryl J. on February 23, 2008, 07:37:25 PM
Round-nosed Herc with 4 turbojets used for the US Army as a hack, US Post office as a transport, etc.......ie something where ultra-quick acceleration for short fields is less important.

So, a shortened C-141, perhaps? ;D ;D
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The Hawker Sea Hawk was known in development as the 'Jet Tempest'.  I've seen a pic of a Sea Hawk with a Tempest wing in BSP, but I'm not sure if it resembled it more early on.  I've also seen pics of jet Mosquito, I guess a DH Hornet is a natural progression from that?

How about an XP-67, that'd be cool. :ph34r:  There also this:



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Quote from: Daryl J. on February 23, 2008, 07:37:25 PMLonger, skinnier turbojets on any Gloster Meteor.

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