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Mossie's Hasegawa F11f Tiger

Started by Mossie, January 03, 2008, 03:19:57 PM

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Mossie

Right.  Here goes nothing. :o  :o  :o

I'm almost ready to start, I need to get some more paints & I should be able to get those from a model shop tomorrow as I'm owed a few hours off work.  I'm still undecided on the paint scheme, I really want to do a Royal Danish Air Force aircraft.  I'm going to order some decals, if they don't arrive in time for the paint going on it'll be West German instead, which I'm happy with.  The main thing is getting this kit done although I realise the need to do something I have some enthusiam about, both these ideas fit that.  RAF is a rank outsider, although it may happen if a firm idea forms in my head.  My thinking is that it will be an F-104 alternative.

What's - in - the - box????? :rolleyes:







It looks pretty simple to build, it's an older Hasegawa offering & lacks some detail compared to newer kits, but a quick dry fit suggests it'll go together better than anything I've built before.  A reasonable number of parts & simple steps.

As I mentioned in my 'Request for Help' thread, please feel to give me a 'kick up the backside'.  If I look like I'm slacking, or my heads getting down a bit, dig me in the ribs!  Also, please feel free to offer suggestions to any aspect of the build, I'm not a complete beginner but although I've done the odd kit in the last few years, it's been quite a while.  I may need particular guidance on the finishing aspects as I've rarely got that far!  I'll be brush painting this one & using Tamiya Acrylics with possibly some of the new Humbrol Acrylics.

Right.  As I said at the beggining, here goes nothing! :blink:  :blink:  :blink:  
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

AeroplaneDriver

I've always like d the F11.  To me it has those classic jet fighter lines like the Hunter.

Can't wait to see it in Danish colors.  Is an arctic scheme a possiblity..?  Maybe deployed to Greenland to counter aggresive Soviet naval maneuvers..?
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

Mossie

QuoteI've always like d the F11.  To me it has those classic jet fighter lines like the Hunter.

Can't wait to see it in Danish colors.  Is an arctic scheme a possiblity..?  Maybe deployed to Greenland to counter aggresive Soviet naval maneuvers..?
Yeah, it's a gorgeous aircraft, looks wise I rate it up there with the Hunter too.  I think it looks great in flight, looks a little funny on the ground as it's tail heavy on the undercart!

Hadn't though of a winter scheme, nice idea.  I was just going to go with the green drab, maybe weathered slightly.  Are there any real world Danish winter schemes, or would I need to invent one?
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

AeroplaneDriver

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QuoteI've always like d the F11.  To me it has those classic jet fighter lines like the Hunter.

Can't wait to see it in Danish colors.  Is an arctic scheme a possiblity..?  Maybe deployed to Greenland to counter aggresive Soviet naval maneuvers..?
Yeah, it's a gorgeous aircraft, looks wise I rate it up there with the Hunter too.  I think it looks great in flight, looks a little funny on the ground as it's tail heavy on the undercart!

Hadn't though of a winter scheme, nice idea.  I was just going to go with the green drab, maybe weathered slightly.  Are there any real world Danish winter schemes, or would I need to invent one?
I was picturing something like the allover green with a temporary white arctic scheme an top.  Sort of like the RAF Harrier GR.5s when they had the allover 2-tone green briefly in the 90s.
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

GTX

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Well, the Danish F-100s were of much the same era as the F-11 Tiger, so any of the schemes used for the F-100 should be applicable.  Generally, these were fairly bland in colouring though - being mostly all over dull greenish (although that in itself would be different on a Tiger):



I do like the RAF Harrier temporary white arctic scheme though.  Another possible would be a "Tiger Meet" scheme.

Regards,

Greg
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B777LR

Yay, much better than the F-104s we had!  :wub:

:cheers:  :cheers:

PS: Wasnt it you who i sent a set of danish roundels to?


Aircav

It would look very Gnatish with a two seat canopy  :P  
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Mossie

QuoteYay, much better than the F-104s we had!  :wub:

:cheers:  :cheers:

PS: Wasnt it you who i sent a set of danish roundels to?
Yes, you did Thomas thanks!  It was remembering I had these in my decal stash that gave me the idea.  The trouble is, these roundels are too large for the F11F so I'll have to order some from a F-104 sheet.  It'll also mean I'll have some suitable codes & stencils too.

Aircav, a two seater would be nice, maybe a fighter-bomber?  I'm going to stick with the single seat a I want to make this build as simple as possible, but it's a nice idea.  I did originally buy this kit for another project & it was it's resemblance to the Gnat that made it suitable.  In fact, it might be a good basis to use for some of the larger Gnat developments.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mossie

Greg, yeah, the Danish scheme is a bit bland, but a single colour drab is unusual for front line jets.  The matt finish tended to weather heavily as well, this made them look less bland as it gave a Tiger stripe appearance (appropriate!).  The matt finish was replaced with a gloss one in the eighties, I think it was purely because it weathered less.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0214...lrne&photo_nr=7
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0487...RFP&photo_nr=40

If I go with a winter scheme, I'll probably do it in a pattern based on their C-47's (which later got painted in, you guessed it, all over drab!).  They appear to have the camo going over the airframe in rough straight bands, might look effective.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1263...QRFP&photo_nr=1
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

GTX

If you can do something like the Draken picture, I will be extremely impressed!!!

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

GTX

Of course for another option, you could go bare metal as was also carried on a Danish F-100 (lower picture):



Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

B777LR

Other possibilities:
http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/3/5.../1352-14513.jpg
http://www.f-100.info/images/f-100d_52756.jpg
http://www.flymuseum.dk/fly/flytekst/rf84f.php
http://www.flymuseum.dk/fly/flytekst/t-33-dt102.php
http://www.flymuseum.dk/fly/flytekst/f86d.php
http://www.flymuseum.dk/fly/flytekst/s-55.php

And theres always the danish dynamite draken scheme :wub:
http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/revista/n...paolo/ar117.jpg

As you can see, the danish air force was very fond of dayglow orange :ill: and when they wanted to get rid of it, it didnt want to come off the planes. On the F-100s (painted with dayglow orange when delivered), the orange was painted over with the green colour. The afterburner on the F-100, however, got so hot that the green paint burned off, leaving the dirty appearance of orange-green paint <_<  

John Howling Mouse

The F-11 is a great choice, Mossie.

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Keep the paint scheme simple enough that you will not get too hung up by a highly detailed finish.  Keep it free and easy and, most important: fun.    ^_^  
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It's a nice little kit Mossie - thoroghly enjoyed mine  
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Mossie

Thanks for the colour schemes guys, that gives me a lot more options than I thought I had for Denmark.

Baz, thanks for the nudge.  I've got a habit of making things difficult for myself!  I'm currentley doing a painting little experiment to see if I can replicate the weathering simply, but as you say I need to keep it easy & most important of all fun!

Chris, that's a lovely French Tiger!  I've seen a RN Tiger on the SIG tables recentley, was that yours too?

I meant to start yesterday, but real life thought otherwise when my brother & his kids turned up & stayed the night.  I did manage to try out the Tamiya acrylics on a spare Spitfire wing.  It didn't cover well, but I did paint on an unprimed surface.  Does Tamiya paint tend to resond well to primer?
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.