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Help wanted, EE Lightning cutaway

Started by philp, February 26, 2008, 11:29:04 PM

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philp

Trying to see how I can modify my Lightning for the LSR GB and that bulge on the bottom is bugging me.
What actually went there?

I am sure I have a cutaway drawing somewhere in the mag or book but just haven't come across it yet.

Anyone got a link or can scan one in?
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jcf

Fuel tank for the greedy bugger 'twas.


Sans tank.

Jon



Thorvic

Basically Conformal fuel tank, guns and avionics. The main fuselage was pretty much engines and intake truncking leaving little room for everything else. :banghead: Always a problem with the lightningfinding space to put stuff !
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Mossie

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Don't know if these photo's from Airliners.net help much, but they show what's in there to some degree.  Like the picture John shows, the belly pack could be removed, but rarely was because the Lightning barely had enough fuel with it!  One of Thunder City Lightnings recentley made a new time to height record & the belly pack was removed for the attempt.  Different marks had differing equipment within the packs.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0854234&size=L&width=1200&height=812&sok=&photo_nr=
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1248134&size=L&width=1200&height=812&sok=&photo_nr=11
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0634267&size=L&width=1280&height=972&sok=&photo_nr=173
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0567635&size=L&width=1024&height=680&sok=&photo_nr=150
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0387160&size=L&width=1024&height=726&sok=&photo_nr=219
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0405805&size=L&width=1280&height=878&sok=&photo_nr=222
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0450880&size=L&width=944&height=638&sok=&photo_nr=239
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0483252&size=L&width=1280&height=873&sok=&photo_nr=249
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6040175&nseq=16

Some of these are better than others, a few just show gaping holes where the packs should go, but some show the fuel tanks & the Hendon aircraft has some good detail in a removed pack beside it.
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philp

Thanks for the photos guys (still hard to see any bird left to rot, got to be a museum somewhere that wants them).

So, I can just follow the belly line from the front straight back for my racer.
Fuel shouldn't be too much an issue as only needs enough for the quarter(?) mile each way.
There were additional fuel tanks in the fuselage, right?

This one is fun so far.  Wish the GB was sooner so I could really get going on it.
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jcf

Quote from: philp on February 28, 2008, 12:15:13 PM
Thanks for the photos guys (still hard to see any bird left to rot, got to be a museum somewhere that wants them).


Left to rot? The pics are of museum birds except for the black aircraft which is operated by Thunder City in South Africa.

Jon

Mossie

Well, unfortunately the Lightnings at Doncaster Aeroventure & Norwich Aviation Museum could be said to be 'left to rot in a museum'.  Both are permanently outdoors & the museums don't have enough funds to restore them.  I've visited Aeroventure on a few occasions & it's outdoor aircraft are in a worse state every time I visit.  It's a shame.
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jcf

Quote from: Mossie on February 28, 2008, 01:41:42 PM
Well, unfortunately the Lightnings at Doncaster Aeroventure & Norwich Aviation Museum could be said to be 'left to rot in a museum'.  Both are permanently outdoors & the museums don't have enough funds to restore them.  I've visited Aeroventure on a few occasions & it's outdoor aircraft are in a worse state every time I visit.  It's a shame.

They shouldn't worry about 'restoration' and concentrate on 'preservation', if the aircraft have to be left outside then they should be sealed up and weatherized. Much cheaper than restoration.

As to the lack of funds, have you contributed to the museum funds beyond the admissions fees?
I also notice that the UK seems to have a different definition of 'museum membership', over here we call it 'volunteering'.
My wife and I are members of the Museum of Flight in Seattle (currently at the Barnstormer level) which means we pay an annual fee to directly support the museum. This is a standard museum funding model in the US.
http://www.museumofflight.org/Display.asp?Page=Membership
We also donate cash directly to the various projects.

Those museums may want to consider a similar funding scheme.

Jon