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F-11 (F11F) Tiger

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Mossie

#60
July 20, 2011, 06:54:17 AM
That's because you're in Aussiestan & far away from any flak, me, it's right on my doorstep! :lol:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

James

#61
July 20, 2011, 07:25:15 AM
The Tiger is a beauty but she's no Hunter.  :wub:

rickshaw

#62
July 20, 2011, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mossie on July 20, 2011, 06:54:17 AM
That's because you're in Aussiestan & far away from any flak, me, it's right on my doorstep! :lol:

Another one to add to the advantage column about living in Godszone.  ;)
How to reduce carbon emissions - Tip #1 - Walk to the Bar for drinks.

Mossie

#63
July 20, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
I didn't realise you were from Yorkshire too..... :dalek: :dalek: :dalek: ;D

Quote from: James on July 20, 2011, 07:25:15 AM
The Tiger is a beauty but she's no Hunter.  :wub:

See???  I'm already kopping for it!!!! :lol:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

rallymodeller

#64
July 20, 2011, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: James on July 20, 2011, 07:25:15 AM
The Tiger is a beauty but she's no Hunter.  :wub:

And the Hunter's no Sabre. So there you go.
--Jeremy

Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...


More into Flight Sim reskinning these days, but still what-iffing... Leading Edge 3D

PR19_Kit

#65
July 20, 2011, 05:13:32 PM
Quote from: rallymodeller on July 20, 2011, 04:16:57 PM
And the Hunter's no Sabre. So there you go.

True, it's quicker........  ;D

But this is a 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' area so perhaps we better agree to dis-agree.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

KJ_Lesnick

#66
July 21, 2011, 09:08:59 PM
Is it true that the F11F-2 would not just have had a J-79 like the F11F-1F, but a larger wing
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

Mossie

#67
July 22, 2011, 01:31:38 AM Last Edit: July 22, 2011, 03:46:36 PM by Mossie
The prototype did, however the drawings I posted have the standard late Tiger wing with the small LERX.  There's a handy comparison diagram on the inside back cover of the book that shows the original F11F prototype superimposed onto the F11F-1F.

I found this version on the net, it's small but you can make it out.  The Super Tiger is the black outline, the Tiger in white.  Note on the left is a drawing of a wingtip rail, no mention of this is made in the book so I don't know how serious it was.  The shape of the wing isn't obvious from this pic, there's a kink in the trailing edge & the LERX are slightly larger than the late Tiger.  If I have time I'll scan a larger copy (done).



Other changes are the nose, it's a standard long nose on the Super Tiger prototype although production models might have had a slightly fleshed out cone.  The tail is pretty much the same as late model Tigers, maybe slightly larger.  The cockpit windscreen/windshield is longer, in fact the Super Tiger prototypes simply put a the new one over the exisiting one so they had two windscreens.  The tailpipe is the most glaring change to accomodate the larger J79.  There's also the folding ventral fins I mentioned earlier, but these wouldn't have made it into production as they found to be uneccesary.

EDIT, larger scan added a promised! :thumbsup:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mossie

#68
July 22, 2011, 03:52:10 PM
Another scan from the Naval Fighters volume, two seat Super Tiger ZELL proposal.  The Super Tiger was pretty compact & could be launched from a standard truck trailer, that & a 70% stronger structure than USAF century series fighters leant itself to ZELL applications.

I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

GTX

#69
July 23, 2011, 11:18:27 AM
Nice!  That Launcher platform looks relatively easy to build too!  Do they mention anything about landing options?

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

Mossie

#70
July 25, 2011, 03:10:01 AM
No, there's a just a small passage on the last page of the book.  There's a photo showing a standard Tiger on the back of a truck, although it's more for illustration purposes to it's small size as it was part of a parade.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

thundereagle1997

#71
November 28, 2022, 09:16:24 PM
F-11B/ F11F-1F Super Tiger with wingtip rails a bubble canopy 2 M39a2 cannons & 2 J-85-GE-21s please.
The same ideas for a supersonic gnat as well

thundereagle1997

#72
December 30, 2022, 12:16:51 AM
The f-11b super tiger would've been a great idea if greedy Lockheed didn't get in the way of the infamous brides to local politicians in Europe & Japan

PR19_Kit

#73
December 30, 2022, 05:28:00 AM
Brides?  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

thundereagle1997

#74
December 31, 2022, 12:56:22 AM
Sorry I meant bribes my friend I must've made a spelling error my most sincere apologies
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