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B-36 Peacemaker

Started by noxioux, October 24, 2005, 01:59:07 PM

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kitnut617

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Chris707

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Too take it even further, you could have a pair of F-84s on the Superfort's wings "Tom Tom" fashion, another pair on the B-36's wings, and another F-84 in the Peacemaker bomb bay FICON style ;-) 10 turning, ten burning (assuming you don't put KB-50 style pods on the Superfort) and you'd STILL probably have the most underpowered assemblage ever to (maybe) take to the air

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       I've always wondered. Is that Washington State or Washington, DC, or even a Washington in the UK? IIRC, many of the Brit bombers were named after towns in England.


Quote from: Jeffry Fontaine on October 24, 2005, 05:56:05 PM
Well WHIFing the B-36 sounds like a good idea.  What name do you think the British would have given it for their own versions?  Boeing B-29 became the "Washington" so would the B-36 have been named after the Lone Star State?  The Convair "Texas" B. 1.?  Or would they have chosen another name for it?  

I like the idea of a B-36 in RAF Coastal Command markings.  Maybe another one as a Pathfinder for 100 Group.  Australian FEAF with green top and white underside?  It would definitely have been able to strap on the Grand Slam and carry it internally without any problems.  Or in the mine laying role, it would have been able to bottle up Tokyo harbor on one sortie.  

NARSES2

US built bombers were named after Towns/Cities/States in the US eg : Baltimore, Maryland, Boston etc. They sometimes tried to give it a name that had some relevance, place of manufacture etc but obviously the more types that were aquired meant that became more difficult.

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kitnut617

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 27, 2009, 06:17:27 AM
US built bombers were named after Towns/Cities/States in the US eg : Baltimore, Maryland, Boston etc. They sometimes tried to give it a name that had some relevance, place of manufacture etc but obviously the more types that were aquired meant that became more difficult.

And I always was under the impression it was the RAF which gave them their names, USAAF just called them by their designation number, B-17, B-24 etc (at least I've never read a book which called them by names).  A P-51 was called just that by the US guys, not Mustang (an RAF name).
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Doc Yo

 Super Fort Worth, perhaps?

Continuing the flying aircraft carrier theme, it occurs to me that a C-99, with a bit of tail modification*,
would have been able to carry a gaggle of F-85 'Goblin' fighters...wouldn't be impossible to scratch up
a fuselage to go with the Academy 'FiCon' boxing of the B-36. ( Which includes a Goblin in addition to
the RF-86, if I'm not mistaken...)


* Something like a twin fin arrangement, so you could have a stern dock-be a bit less awkward than
   the 'trapeze' on the B-29 test planes.

Jeffry Fontaine

The B-36 Peacemaker was often called the Strategic Air Command's "Big Stick" for the during the cold war.  So why not give it a similar name for your USAAF/RAF '46 bomber command version with a name like Shillelagh, Battle Axe, or Tomahawk?

If anyone can find an appropriate native name for a war club please share that information.
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jcf

Hawaiian: La-au-palau (long war club), Newa (short war club), Pohaku (stone hand club)

Maori: Mere (jade clubs only) and Patu

Stone's Glossary lists over 150 names for club and each has its own entry in the book.

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NARSES2

Quote from: kitnut617 on August 27, 2009, 06:33:28 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 27, 2009, 06:17:27 AM
US built bombers were named after Towns/Cities/States in the US eg : Baltimore, Maryland, Boston etc. They sometimes tried to give it a name that had some relevance, place of manufacture etc but obviously the more types that were aquired meant that became more difficult.

And I always was under the impression it was the RAF which gave them their names, USAAF just called them by their designation number, B-17, B-24 etc (at least I've never read a book which called them by names).  A P-51 was called just that by the US guys, not Mustang (an RAF name).

Sorry mate I should have said "US built bombers were named by the RAF after ----- etc". There's always been an adversion to numbers over here for some reason we prefer names  ;D
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rickshaw

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on August 27, 2009, 03:20:33 PM
Hawaiian: La-au-palau (long war club), Newa (short war club), Pohaku (stone hand club)

Maori: Mere (jade clubs only) and Patu

Stone's Glossary lists over 150 names for club and each has its own entry in the book.

Jon

It should have been called with Nula-Nula or Knobkerry.  :mellow:
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ysi_maniac

What if YB-60 entered in service and several years later a powerplant update was applied?

BTW: I think that tailfin is quite oversized in this plane. What do you think?

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NARSES2

Quote from: ysi_maniac on October 11, 2023, 08:28:35 PMBTW: I think that tailfin is quite oversized in this plane. What do you think?


Looks oversize to me, but otherwise looks right for the job  :thumbsup:
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jcf

Sweeping the wings of the B-36 and adding the B-52 style podded engines changed the directional stability of the aircraft
which required the addition of the enlarged vertical tail. Note that it's probable that a production B-60 would have been
equipped with turbo-prop engines.

As an aside going from eight engines to four large turbofans would encounter the same issues that led to that notion
being discarded for the reengineing of the B-52, the increased side area negatively impacting rudder effectiveness at
low speeds. Plus it was going to require complete redesign of the engine pylons and exten$ive changes to the wing
structure.
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