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Heinkel 100 build -FOR SALE-

Started by red arrow jag, March 15, 2008, 10:47:35 AM

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red arrow jag

The Lindberg 1:72 Heinkel 100, I love the look of this experimental aircraft and have decided to create a 'what-if' the RLM had picked it for the Luftwaffe.
Having carried out a bit of research, I have found that it used a condensation system to cool the oil and water which in practice was poor and the complex design made the Bf109 a better option.

The kit itself is very good, it has clean mouldings and the plastic good and detail is of adequate quality.
For this to be a viable build I would need to re-engine it and make some adjustments to the exterior of model.



I have started with the removal and re-scribing of all panel lines.

The Undercarriage will need to be detailed as these are a little basic and the doors will need to be thinned. I have some spare parts from the Revel He70 such as a spatted tail wheel which would look good fitted.



The wheel wells are from an old Academy Typhoon that has long since been demolished for spares and the horrid radiator cover had to go, hence the big hole in at the rear of the wing section.  I cut out and thinned the wheel well detail and glued them on the inside of the wing, then attaching the tops of the wing I only applied glue to the front edges and let dry.  Gluing the rest of the wing will make the final piece fatter than the original kit, Maybe I can then put the radiator in the leading edge of the wing a la Hawker Fury?





A quick test fit of the model; the cockpit has been improved by thinning the interior of that Typhoon and glueing to the side walls. (a very slight representation, I'm not going for accuracy)

The aircraft has a similar representation of the airacobra I think, that gives me an idea!



An Airacobra style nose-wheel configuration? I desided to see how the bird would look...quite a smart proposal I think? (forgot to add the prop on this one)


Just to see what the Heinkel would look like in its conventional tail-dragger configuration (with spatted wheel)

GTX

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Interesting - see here for discussion of possible whiffs, including some info on the cooling system.
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Greg
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John Howling Mouse

Very cool, especially with tri-gear.  All you need now is a T-Tail.

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Ed S

The tri gear idea looks like a winner.  It makes it different from just another what if paint job on a regular He 100.

Ed
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B777LR

Quote from: John Howling Mouse on March 15, 2008, 03:27:26 PM
Very cool, especially with tri-gear.  All you need now is a T-Tail.

Oh Matrixooooooooooooooone, where are you?

It needs spats and a mate too... (spatted T-tail Zwilling!)

red arrow jag

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Quote from: John Howling Mouse on March 15, 2008, 03:27:26 PM
Very cool, especially with tri-gear.  All you need now is a T-Tail.


Thanks for the idea!


philp

Very Interestin

I also have this kit in the Whiff pile.  Was thinking one of the standard 109 markings for it or a foreign user.

If I can make a suggestion on the tricycle geared version.  I think it would work better if you moved the wing gears back a little.
Seen a conversion of the Aircobra to an earlier version with a tail wheel and the gears were moved forward.  Think it works in reverse.
Phil Peterson

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red arrow jag

Quote from: philp on March 16, 2008, 09:07:41 PM
Very Interestin

I also have this kit in the Whiff pile.  Was thinking one of the standard 109 markings for it or a foreign user.

If I can make a suggestion on the tricycle geared version.  I think it would work better if you moved the wing gears back a little.
Seen a conversion of the Aircobra to an earlier version with a tail wheel and the gears were moved forward.  Think it works in reverse.

I see what you mean Philip, unfortunately, having glued the wings and wheel bays together before I came up with the 'trike' version I t would now take major surgery to move the u/c back  >:(  I may look into altering the gear legs before I finish it, as a compromise, thaks for the suggestion.

As for markings, It has been suggested to me to use a Bf109 markings set.  I have my eyes on two schemes at the mo.

1. JG.54 (Grunherz) markings from around 1942 Western Front

2. Heinkel prototype/ Testbed of Silver/ Light Grey and a sort of lurid green primer colour (maybe the panel lines will be filled with a coloured putty for streamlining purposes?

jcf

Quote from: red arrow jag on March 15, 2008, 10:47:35 AM
Having carried out a bit of research, I have found that it used a condensation system to cool the oil and water which in practice was poor and the complex design made the Bf109 a better option.

The He 100D 'production' aircraft dispensed with the evaporative cooling system and used a regular radiator.

Jon

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I would have suggested the engine / front end of a Bf-109G fitted, which would include the later engine versions, but it is probably too late by now...

red arrow jag

Quote from: B777LR on March 17, 2008, 12:47:07 PM
I would have suggested the engine / front end of a Bf-109G fitted, which would include the later engine versions, but it is probably too late by now...

No, its not to late! Thanks for the idea.  I am looking to use the existing nose but loosely copy a BF109(?)  profile by adding intakes and the necessary lumps and bumps (not exactly accurate, but it looks good) 

Brian da Basher

The Lindberg He-100 is totally ripe for whiffing and you've done it proud!

I really like the tricycle gear myself and I think it would compliment the T-tail nicely. At least with spats on the main gear being out of the picture. ;)

Brian da Basher

jcf

Quote from: red arrow jag on March 17, 2008, 01:25:20 PM
Quote from: B777LR on March 17, 2008, 12:47:07 PM
I would have suggested the engine / front end of a Bf-109G fitted, which would include the later engine versions, but it is probably too late by now...

No, its not to late! Thanks for the idea.  I am looking to use the existing nose but loosely copy a BF109(?)  profile by adding intakes and the necessary lumps and bumps (not exactly accurate, but it looks good) 

The lumps and bumps on the late model 109s were there as the result of lashing up an old airframe in an ill-fated attempt to make it viable against newer (and better) Allied aircraft, the biggest bumps were the cowl-gun breech covers. Heinkel were more likely to take the careful engineering approach and the result would probably have ended up having more in common, appearance wise, with a late model Ki 61 than with a 109G or K.  A major difference between the He 100 and the 109 (and the Ki 61, MC 202/205 etc.) was that the Heinkel did not have cowl-guns... no gun-no gun breech-no bump.

Jon

red arrow jag


The lumps and bumps on the late model 109s were there as the result of lashing up an old airframe in an ill-fated attempt to make it viable against newer (and better) Allied aircraft, the biggest bumps were the cowl-gun breech covers. Heinkel were more likely to take the careful engineering approach and the result would probably have ended up having more in common, appearance wise, with a late model Ki 61 than with a 109G or K.  A major difference between the He 100 and the 109 (and the Ki 61, MC 202/205 etc.) was that the Heinkel did not have cowl-guns... no gun-no gun breech-no bump.

Jon
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Thanks Jon, I certainly share your views of Heinkel having cleaner lines, take the He111 and He70, I will take these factors into account.
I can't build anything until thursday so until then tis work.....  :rolleyes:

B777LR

If modifying the nose, perhaps that very round spinner of the Bf-109G?  :wub: