Maus, E-100, and other super heavy tanks

[Sauragnmon]

Ausf B looks like they said screw it and put the 17cm in the turret.  This is your King Tiger on Drugs.  Questions? BOOM.

What game are those models for?  They look like they might have been used for Generals, or something later, with the smoothing on the edges.  They do look real nice thought.  I know they're a game model because of the team colour sections on them.

[sagallacci]

Is that E100 Jagdpanzer real or fiction? The gun and front plate seem reasonable, but the wedged sides don't seem sensible, as internal space was needed, and would be a weld line weakness.

And, how does one post images here?

[sagallacci]

I asked and got a reply back, so I'll try to post an image. Just the Trumpeter Geschutztiger for now.

[Wyrmshadow]

Ausf B looks like they said screw it and put the 17cm in the turret.  This is your King Tiger on Drugs.  Questions? BOOM.

What game are those models for?  They look like they might have been used for Generals, or something later, with the smoothing on the edges.  They do look real nice thought.  I know they're a game model because of the team colour sections on them.

CivilizationIII is the game. I have to animate them myself, then put the anims in the game, not the actual model. I've done..... lots of them over the years.
I don't want to threadjack too much.

[Wyrmshadow]

here's the page where I got the idea for the giant Stug variant.
http://www.panzer-modell.de/berichte/e-100_stug/e100_stug.htm

[Sauragnmon]

End of the day the StuG variant looks and sounds a lot like the Jagdpanzer variant, the same 17cm gun at the core, the top 30mm turret, but very cool what he did at the end of it all.  Very cool indeed.

[sagallacci]

I've got a good start on the Maus II turret on an E-100 in 1/35 as well as a more expediant converted original Maus turret to a quasi-Maus II turret for the E-100 as well. I'll have snaps posted soon.

[Thorvic]

A Japanese Resin producer has done the Maus II turret along with a variety of Maus and E100 revamps, although at somewhat costly prices !!!

http://www.armour-models.co.uk/model_kit_atelier.html

Scroll to bottom of list.

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[bluedonkey99]

there is  more manageable version in 1/144 with Dio

http://kampfgruppe144.blogspot.com/2008/08/1144-e100-stug-diorama-by-kiwi-resin.html

[sagallacci]

The resin Maus II turret appears to be kind of weak and inconsistant with the latest research. Thanks for the link, however.

[dy031101]

Speaking of super heavy tanks...... somehow Char 2C managed to come to my mind......

While being the most heavily-armoured by WWI standard, by the beginning of WWII its protection scheme became already inadequate.

Could there have been any way to salvage its value, however?  One of them was experimentally up-armoured in late 1939 to become immune to contemporary German AT weapons, raising its weight to 75 tons- okay, that's probably as well-protected as it was ever going to be- does anyone have pictures of such an experiment?

What about the main turret?  How large is it when compared to the turret of...... Sherman Firefly?

[Jeffry Fontaine]

Paul Owens' Track-Link page has a new entry that falls under this subject.  It is a pair of turrets and one hull based on the E-100 series paper panzer project built by Marcus Schoebel.  Marcus has gone so far as building a scratch-built "schwerer Stahlunterstand" (heavy steel base) for the spare turret that is not mounted on the E-100 hull.  I rather like the idea of the heavy tank turret bunker to display the extra turret and promote some additional WHIF thoughts about how the design could have been used for something other than an extremely heavy tank.  The night fighting turret looks a bit odd with the massive IR light source mounted to the rear of the commander and loader positions but it is interesting. 

There are some other WHIF models buried in the galleries of Track-Link, you have to do a little searching but that is half the fun of browsing. 

Anyone know where I can find one or three of those pepperpot muzzle brakes in that size of gun tube?  Something in the 120mm to 180mm range? It looks like a great way to cap off an artillery tube to enhance the appearance. 

[Jeffry Fontaine]

I want to see a diorama of a burned out Maus or E100 with either a Centurion trundling past or a flight of rocket armed Tempests or Hornets flying overhead.

Even better would be a lone Tommy standing on top of the hulk with a thumbs up and holding his recently discharged PIAT in the other hand. 

*remembering the progaganda image of the lone American Paratrooper with his bazooka standing in front of a destroyed Panther

[sagallacci]

I've got a couple of dioramas planned for my E-100s.
The first will be a quasi-operational E-100 in its more or less as-planned configuration with the Maus II turret, abandoned after the inevitable engine fire.
The second one will be more whiffy, a factory scene with a E-100 hull with a fully detailed interiour, including the GT102 gas turbine installation and a turret modified out of an original type Maus turret (curved front plate replaced with simple flat) but just the empty armor as a weight for running tests. Various officials will be looking on.
The third will be total whiffery, a GT102 powered E-100 with a limited traverse turret with a 17cm gun, in the middle of getting pounded after getting the tracks shot out. Will there be a dead IS-3 or Super Pershing in the scene too?

[Aircav]

I want to see a diorama of a burned out Maus or E100 with either a Centurion trundling past or a flight of rocket armed Tempests or Hornets flying overhead.

Even better would be a lone Tommy standing on top of the hulk with a thumbs up and holding his recently discharged PIAT in the other hand. 

*remembering the progaganda image of the lone American Paratrooper with his bazooka standing in front of a destroyed Panther

PIAT would go through 100mm of steel at 90% at most, what would be better would be a 1945 experimental Recoilless gun Britain was developing, from what I can remember it was either a 3.75inch or 4.5inch with about 4 venturies at the rear and it was shoulder mounted.