BAE Hawk and T-45 Goshawk

[PR19_Kit]

Which is the best 1/72 scale Hawk kit, the older Airfix one or the newer, but cheaper, Revell/Italeri one?

And please include the new Airfix 100 version as well.

No-one answered this post........... 

[Devilfish]

Just saw this thread.  I have built 2 what-if British military combat Hawks. Both from the Airfix 1/48 kit

The TF.3

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,32508.0/highlight,hawk+tf+3.html

And the Sea Hawk S.1

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,36805.0/highlight,sea+hawk+s+1.html

[kitnut617]

Which is the best 1/72 scale Hawk kit, the older Airfix one or the newer, but cheaper, Revell/Italeri one?

And please include the new Airfix 100 version as well.

No-one answered this post........... 

Got most of those Kit, but I haven't made any to say which one is best. The only one I've made so far is the Goshawk which was the Testors boxing of it too.

[TallEng]

Which is the best 1/72 scale Hawk kit, the older Airfix one or the newer, but cheaper, Revell/Italeri one?

And please include the new Airfix 100 version as well.

No-one answered this post........... 

Well I will then, without measuring etc etc, the Italeri/revell Hawk doesn't look 'right' around the canopy
Area, it looks too domed. The old Airfix one looks fine but you'll need to make slightly bigger ventral strakes.

And the new Airfix 100 can't say anything about as I've not built one
Hope that helps a bit

Regards
Keith

[kitbasher]

Well.....
Potential heresy moment, but.....
In 1/72 I've always felt the Matchbox T.1 vary very good.  For many years the only one with wing fences, and when Italeri's came out scored points over The Italian Job by dint of the fences being in the right place. Needs aftermarket seats and is lacking detail in places, but nice.
The recent Airfix Hawk 100-series kit looks very nice (I've one in the stash).
Matchbox produced the best 200.  OK the only 200!

[PR19_Kit]

Excellent, thanks very much guys. 

[Dizzyfugu]

Matchbox produced the best 200.  OK the only 200!

And it's ugly, with dreaded trenches. IIRC there was/is also a resin conversion set out there, but I cannot tell if that's actually the better option if you want a single seater?

[Thorvic]

Scalecast did the original Hawk 200 conversion set, but neomega now do forward fuselage for the Italeri Hawk 100 kit and a full replacement fuselage for the Airfix Hawk 100 kit.

http://www.neomega-resin.com/172nd-bae-hawk-200-conversion-for-airfix-hawk-100-kit-120-p.asp

[Howard of Effingham]

Which is the best 1/72 scale Hawk kit, the older Airfix one or the newer, but cheaper, Revell/Italeri one?

And please include the new Airfix 100 version as well.

No-one answered this post........... 

both of the airfix ones are imho better than the revell/italeri ones, though the first airfix one was fairly chunky in places. the new airfix one is good but the decals in the 100 series airfix kit aren't as good as they could be.

stick with airfix kits kit for early and new hawks, 

[Dizzyfugu]

Scalecast did the original Hawk 200 conversion set, but neomega now do forward fuselage for the Italeri Hawk 100 kit and a full replacement fuselage for the Airfix Hawk 100 kit.

http://www.neomega-resin.com/172nd-bae-hawk-200-conversion-for-airfix-hawk-100-kit-120-p.asp

Ah, yes, that's the one I had in mind! 

[PR19_Kit]

I do wish BAe would get their act together and swap names on the series 200 and 100.

Who in their mind gives a TWO seater a 100 series title, and a SINGLE seater a 200 series title? 

[Weaver]

Well the 100 series was a natural evolution of the 50 series and 60 series which were all two-seaters, with the series names established before anyone ever bought a single-seater, so I guess "200 series" was the next "logical" different series that left plently of room below it for further two-seater versions ( 127, 128 etc...).

Since they've established the principle of "thingy-hawk" names with the "Goshawk", why not call the 200 series the "Warhawk", since it unambiguously has no other purpose?

[kitnut617]

I do wish BAe would get their act together and swap names on the series 200 and 100.

Who in their mind gives a TWO seater a 100 series title, and a SINGLE seater a 200 series title? 

You could argue the same point over the Typhoon, the T1 is a two-seater, the F2 is a single seater   

[pyro-manic]

Yes, but there the letter's the important bit, not the mark number. And given we're now on to T.3 and FGR.4, a four-seater isn't terribly plausible... The Hawk 128 is designated T.2 in service.

What about the Fujimi Hawk T.1 kit? I haven't built one, but I have one in the stash and it looks pretty nice in terms of detail.

[Gondor]

Scalecast did the original Hawk 200 conversion set, but neomega now do forward fuselage for the Italeri Hawk 100 kit and a full replacement fuselage for the Airfix Hawk 100 kit.

http://www.neomega-resin.com/172nd-bae-hawk-200-conversion-for-airfix-hawk-100-kit-120-p.asp

You have a habit of making people part with money, good job for me that your not in retail 

Gondor