Main Menu
avatar_nev

Avro Achilles PR2

Started by nev, May 01, 2008, 08:24:15 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Aircav

"Subvert and convert" By Me  :-)

"Sophistication means complication, then escallation, cancellation and finally ruination."
Sir Sydney Camm

"Men do not stop playing because they grow old, they grow old because they stop playing" - Oliver Wendell Holmes

Vertical Airscrew SIG Leader

GTX

Keep those pics coming!!!

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

lancer

Damm, that looks good!! Nice work Nev..
If you love, love without reservation; If you fight, fight without fear - THAT is the way of the warrior

If you go into battle knowing you will die, then you will live. If you go into battle hoping to live, then you will die

nev

#18
The last days of WW2 in Europe saw a race between the major powers to capture as many of Germanys leading scientists as possible.  At the same time, there was a race within Germany as those leading scientists, so highly sought, tried to desperately escape the advancing Russian army and let themselves be captured by the British and Americans - all the while trying to evade the SS & Gestapo, who, drunk on the Nazi martyrdom complex were eagerly hanging anyone who they suspected of defeatist behaviour.



Amongst these prized Scientists were the designers and engineers of the Arado company.  Luckily for them, they managed to find themselves in the posession of the British at wars end and were spirited off to Blighty where the UK government hoped to take advantage of their expertise. 



Perhaps the most tantalising work that they revealed to the British was a design known internally as project E.555, a giant jet-powered gull-winged delta, intended to strike mainland America.  Cancelled by the RLM in 1944, Arado had appealled directly to Hitler, aware of his love of "super-weapons" which he believed would turn the war back in Germanys favour.  Hitler, naturally, gave them permisssion to carry on.



Although by Wars end the aircraft had not flown, Arado had done extensive wind tunnel testing, and flown several small scale models to investigate the design.  All this knowledge was handed to the British on a plate.  The Arado team were sent to Avro company, where Roy Chadwick was fascinated by their work.  Instructed by the British government to bring the Arado design to fruition, initially for scientific purposes, the ambition and quality of the design - much more advanced aerodynamically than the Canberra that was just entering service - soon led to plans for the aircraft to be put into production, with the initial mark being the B.1 bomber variant.



Given the name "Achilles" the aircraft was stripped of the defensive armament of the original German design, relying on its speed and ceiling for protection from enemy fighters.  The aircraft was always meant to be replaced by the V-Bombers in the Nuclear Detterent role, but the RAF did not want to see the high-speed, high-altitude Achilles go to waste, so they were converted to the Recon role under the designation PR2, seeing service into the early 60s.



The model is the Revell 1/72 Arado E.555, kindly supplied by Aircav a few years ago.  Decals are from the MA Canberra sheets.  Serials are kindly via Howard of Effingham



Avro Achilles PR2, "C" Flight, 231 OCU, RAF Bassingbourne, 1958


Between almost-true and completely-crazy, there is a rainbow of nice shades - Tophe


Sales of Airfix kits plummeted in the 1980s, and GCSEs had to be made easier as a result - James May

Ed S

Beautiful.

Nice looking model.

Ed
We don't just embrace insanity here.  We feel it up, french kiss it and then buy it a drink.

Aircav

Very nice Nev, now can I have me model back  ;D
She looks great  :thumbsup: :wub:
"Subvert and convert" By Me  :-)

"Sophistication means complication, then escallation, cancellation and finally ruination."
Sir Sydney Camm

"Men do not stop playing because they grow old, they grow old because they stop playing" - Oliver Wendell Holmes

Vertical Airscrew SIG Leader

Weaver

That looks great nev, and the back story's credible too.

Just one small point of order though: A.V.Roe wasn't at AVRO to be fascinated by this project in 1945, because he'd sold his share in the company to Hawker Group in the early 1930s and gone off to form Saunders Roe with Sam Saunders. It would have been Roy Chadwick, designer of the Lancaster, who assessed this design, and given his enthusiasm for deltas, I'm sure he'd have bitten. Of course, you could always whiff the history differently......
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

GTX

Damn fine result!

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

Mossie

Looks great Nev! :thumbsup:

Quote from: Weaver on June 06, 2008, 10:02:43 AM
That looks great nev, and the back story's credible too.

Just one small point of order though: A.V.Roe wasn't at AVRO to be fascinated by this project in 1945, because he'd sold his share in the company to Hawker Group in the early 1930s and gone off to form Saunders Roe with Sam Saunders. It would have been Roy Chadwick, designer of the Lancaster, who assessed this design, and given his enthusiasm for deltas, I'm sure he'd have bitten. Of course, you could always whiff the history differently......

Weaver, there's was an interesting story I saw on a DVD about Roy Chadwick & the design of the delta wing on the Vulcan.  Initially, he wasn't keen at all.  He'd been off work for some weeks with a nasty case of shingles.  When he left, the Vulcan design was going strongly in a conventional manner.  In his absence, his designers realised the delta would be very suitable for the Vulcan & pressed ahead with that.

Chadwick returned on a Friday, to see that his designers had completley deviated from the conventional path.  Suprised & still not feeling great, he went completely off his head!  He had a raging argument with his head designer & told him in no uncertain terms that he was to return to the previous designs & that weeks had been wasted.

Over the weekend, he had a look over the delta designs & had a good think about it as well as a chance to calm down.  By return to work on Monday, he'd had complete change of heart, called his head designer in to apologise & to tell him that the delta design had merit.  So it makes you wonder, if Roy Chadwick hadn't felt ill, would the design of the Vulcan have carried on down a more conventional path?
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Weaver

Quote from: Mossie on June 07, 2008, 07:07:00 AM
Looks great Nev! :thumbsup:

Quote from: Weaver on June 06, 2008, 10:02:43 AM
That looks great nev, and the back story's credible too.

Just one small point of order though: A.V.Roe wasn't at AVRO to be fascinated by this project in 1945, because he'd sold his share in the company to Hawker Group in the early 1930s and gone off to form Saunders Roe with Sam Saunders. It would have been Roy Chadwick, designer of the Lancaster, who assessed this design, and given his enthusiasm for deltas, I'm sure he'd have bitten. Of course, you could always whiff the history differently......

Weaver, there's was an interesting story I saw on a DVD about Roy Chadwick & the design of the delta wing on the Vulcan.  Initially, he wasn't keen at all.  He'd been off work for some weeks with a nasty case of shingles.  When he left, the Vulcan design was going strongly in a conventional manner.  In his absence, his designers realised the delta would be very suitable for the Vulcan & pressed ahead with that.

Chadwick returned on a Friday, to see that his designers had completley deviated from the conventional path.  Suprised & still not feeling great, he went completely off his head!  He had a raging argument with his head designer & told him in no uncertain terms that he was to return to the previous designs & that weeks had been wasted.

Over the weekend, he had a look over the delta designs & had a good think about it as well as a chance to calm down.  By return to work on Monday, he'd had complete change of heart, called his head designer in to apologise & to tell him that the delta design had merit.  So it makes you wonder, if Roy Chadwick hadn't felt ill, would the design of the Vulcan have carried on down a more conventional path?

Great story Mossie  :thumbsup: - no I hadn't heard that: thought-provoking indeed......
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Captain Canada

Beautiful work, Nevster ! The decals look superb against that finnish. Great stuff. Love the story as well.

:cheers:
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?