Hawker Hurricane

[kitnut617]

There was a bubble top version planned with cut down rear fusalage as well as a Griffon engined version.

One day I'll build a bubble top, with 4 blaed prop and 2 stations under each wing for 40mm S guns and drop tanks (shamelessly copied from something similar seen at Telford 

The Hurricane version I'd like to do is the Dager engined one - anyone know where I can get hold of a Dagger ?

Czech Omega does one, I have one in my collection.  I see Hannants doesn't have it listed at the moment though but they have a lot of the others.  I hav eight different Omega Hurricanes at the moment and there's a couple of others I want to get, slip wing for one 

http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?CATEGORY=&DIVISION=&MANUFACTURER=Omega+Models&CODE=&TYPE=&SCALE=&KEYWORD=hurricane&NUMPERPAGE=25&order%5B%5D=arrived+desc&order%5B%5D=code+asc

[McGreig]

One for BdB:



regards,
Greg

Alternatively, it might look like this:
(and for why it has Stuka gear, see www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,18870.0.html):

[upnorth]

Thanks for the ideas.

I was thinking about trying to graft it together with the Smer 1/72 Yakovlev Yak-3, which they also have going cheap. That way I could get the cut down rear fuselage and the bubble top canopy. Hopefully they can be brought toghether successfully.

As for the engine, I was thinking about maybe a later Merlin variant, but nothing more than that (the Hurricane with a radial just doesn't grab me at all). Maybe take it up to a four blade prop too.

The other thing I was thinking about was the landing gear doors. If I can successfully get a Hurricane and Yak-3 together, it will give me a retracting tail wheel. I thought, if I got that, then I should add extra gear doors on the main gear to cover the exposed section of the wheels that the Hurricane had with the gear retracted.

As for spats (not a chance!) if I were doing it that way, I'd be backdating to the interwar Fury undercarriage.

[Brian da Basher]

Mmmm those spats really add something wonderful to the old girl! They seem to compliment the look of the Hurri quite nicely!

Thanks for posting that, GTX!

McG, your spatted Soviet Hurricane is very sweet! Definitely one of my favorites from that GB!

Brian da Basher

[kitnut617]

Erm, why buy a hideously expensive resin kit to do the slip wing Hurricane when it's cheaper to buy two Hurricanes?

'cause I can buy one and save myself a whole lot of work which I could be doing on something else   

[Mossie]

There was a bubble top version planned with cut down rear fusalage as well as a Griffon engined version.

One day I'll build a bubble top, with 4 blaed prop and 2 stations under each wing for 40mm S guns and drop tanks (shamelessly copied from something similar seen at Telford 

The Hurricane version I'd like to do is the Dager engined one - anyone know where I can get hold of a Dagger ?

You've got a few options I can think of Chris.  Cheapest, but most difficult would be getting hold of a Matchbox Fairey Seafox (maybe two) & lengthening it's Napier Rapier (the Dagger was basically a 24 cylinder version of the 16 cylinder Rapier).

The other options are more expensive, chopping the Dagger from the Magna MB.2 kit (about £20), or waiting a little while for forthcoming Valom HP Hereford (probably be around the £25-£30 mark).  You could either find a clever chappy that can cast you a resin copy of the engines from the base kits, or you could pop another engine on those for a future whiff.  If you could source some Bristol Pegasus', you could turn the Hereford into a Hampden.

[NARSES2]

Kitnut - I new Omega did some Hurricane conversions, didn't realise they did the Dagger version.

Mossie - I've got a couple of Safoxes in the stash, had no idea I could use that engine ! Might give it a go and put her in REAF markings.

Gentlemen thankyou

[upnorth]

I picked up the Hurricane today, but the shop was out of Yak-3s. Well most toy shops around here have a boat load of the Smer kits so it shouldn't be that hard to find one.

I'll probably also pick up a resin four blade prop and exhaust stacks for a later Merlin (I think Quickboost does both.

Thanks for all the ideas so far. As I want to keep the Fury/Hurricane lineage obvious in the look of the finished piece, I won't be doing spats or radial engines and I actually don't want it to be too far a jump ahead of the Hurricane variants that actually existed.

I'm still thinking of a backstory. I was briefly entertaining it as a Soviet development engineered off the aircraft they recieved under lend lease, but then I also got toying with the idea of the Munich Agreement not happening and making this version of the Hurricane done with Polish and/or Czechoslovak cooperation.

While both Poland and Czechoslovakia were more than capable of designing and building their own indigenous aircraft, who is to say a bit of outside help wouldn't be appreciated? The thought of having this Hurricane version as a development by PZL or Aero inititially (based on the premise that both countries recieved Hurricanes or licenses to build them pre war) for the Polish and Czechoslovak air forces and then later produced for the Commonwealth by Hawker has a certain appeal.

The basic idea is that this Hurricane might have been the edge needed to keep Poland and Czechoslovakia out from under Nazism's thumb, likely wouldn't have saved them from Communism though.

That's one idea, I might change it though.

[P1127]

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=149823&d=1169305348


Photo of the nearest we got!

[Mossie]

Mossie - I've got a couple of Safoxes in the stash, had no idea I could use that engine ! Might give it a go and put her in REAF markings.

Gentlemen thankyou

Mossi, ta for mentioning the Seafox.  I was scanning though the Morgan/Shacklady Spitfire book for the Bristol 133 and found a twim engined Boulton Paul project powered by Napier Rapiers.  Soon as I can get a Seafox, that's next on the list.  Actually, a pair would be nice.

You're both more than welcome.  Lee, Kingkit have the Matchbox Seafox listed at a fiver.

[sotoolslinger]

Dang you Brits, you have access to so much better kits than we get in the colonies. How bout some websites a Texas boy can get some of this stuff from. Frakkin Hobbytown USA doesn't even carry sanding sticks any more. Finding a LHS is like rediscovering the dodo.

[Mossie]

Kingkit deliver worldwide, although of course there's the shipping charges, which are £12/$24 for airmail, £7/$14 by sea, or even if there's that old kit you're willing to sell the wife & kids for.  Not cheap, but okay if you've got a job lot you need, or there's a bunch of you from a club or whatever who are willing to band together, especially for a group build or some such.

I'm sure they'll be someone who does second hand kits in the US.  It took me a little while to find Kingkit, there are others although I find they have the best selection of old & obscure kits & the service is very good.  I know the show scene is different in the US (although I'm not sure how much) but it's worth looking out for traders, especially those who turn up with a glut of old kits & getting hold of their web addresses for future use.

[kitnut617]

Dang you Brits, you have access to so much better kits than we get in the colonies. How bout some websites a Texas boy can get some of this stuff from. Frakkin Hobbytown USA doesn't even carry sanding sticks any more. Finding a LHS is like rediscovering the dodo.

Here's a couple I use this side of the pond sotoolslinger,
http://rare-planedetective.com/  Rare-Plane Detective operates out of Vegas.
http://www.oldmodelkits.com/    Old Model Kits operates out of Lexington.

[jcf]

I'll keep an eye out for a Seafox - Kingkit won't take cheques and as often as not he'll have your eyes and come back for the sockets.  With luck I may be able to get a gash one somewhere.  I quite like the idea of one with a normal or trousered undercarriage.

A Fox VI/VII or Fantome style spatted gear would look nice, better than what was actually used on the second Seafox prototype. 

Jon

[Martin H]

looks like they used spare swordfish u/c