Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343

[GTX]

It is true (or at least from the references I have), that the swept back 262 wing was more to do with CofG issues than pure aerodynamics.  The earliest proposals were for straight winged options - see below:





Regards,

Greg

[dumaniac]

Greg - interesting facts - I must admit that the P65 is a conversion i want to do - with the nacelles mounted in the wing like a Meteor - I like it will like appealing.  In relation to the wing design, the straight wing was used by the He 280 so there must of been some merit in the design - Heinkel was no dummy - he just did not have support from above

Bernie

[Howard of Effingham]

would or was there a long wing span Ar-234 proposal dedicated to high altitude recon with either 2 or 4 engines?

i ask as the dragon kits for the type all seem to come with some cameras in the moulds and its a shame to waste them.

also i was wondering what might have been the precedent for our own PR19_kit's meteor PR19 model and figured the ar-234 was
good place to start.

trevor

[GTX]

would or was there a long wing span Ar-234 proposal dedicated to high altitude recon with either 2 or 4 engines?

i ask as the dragon kits for the type all seem to come with some cameras in the moulds and its a shame to waste them.

also i was wondering what might have been the precedent for our own PR19_kit's meteor PR19 model and figured the ar-234 was
good place to start.

trevor

Check page 1 of this thread, reply # 6.

Regards,

Greg

[PR19_Kit]

Trevor,

The cameras are there because the 'standard' Ar-234B could be fitted out as a PR version.

The A version, the one without an undercarriage, made a number of operational PR flights when fitted with those cameras, and one made the first ever jet PR flight over the D-Day beaches in June '44. Apparently it covered more ground in one mission than all the entire previous Luftwaffe PR efforts over some days!

As for the Ar-234 being the influence for the PR19, that would more likely have been the Martin Baker MB8 Marln..... 

[sequoiaranger]

This resurrected thread had me *HOPING* you have progressed on either your He-343 or "German B-52" whiff.

Any news??   

[Howard of Effingham]

thank-you GTX and thank-you PR_19kit!

i hadn't thought of extending the fuselage quite that much, if at all. was looking at
extending the wings really and how to keep it looking right.

trevor

[GTX]

Crude, but you get the point:

[RussC]

Teutonic Stratofortress! Lot of weight for a bird that lands on a skid or a narrow track bicycle undercart'. Kudo's for resisting the temptation to put turrets on it.

Like it!

[Green Dragon]

Was planning an extended wing and fuselage with the main landing gear built into the middle of widened engine nacelles. Thinking I may do Greg's Strato-Arado now, that's a cracker!

Paul Harrison

[GTX]

Thanks Paul.

[tomo pauk]

Just as with the Me-262s a while back, how about a piston engined version?



Regards,

Greg

Cheers, GTX - would you be so kind to add the second cockpit to this concept, turning this into a night fighter? Something sorta Me 262 canopy just behind the 'normal' cockpit, and some aerials?

[tahsin]

He was among the people who went over to the Beyond the Sprues forum.

[tomo pauk]

He was among the people who went over to the Beyond the Sprues forum.

Okay, thank you.

[ysi_maniac]

Ar-234P with Ho-229 wings and engines.


... subtle differences... Not sure yet.