I can't carry on any more...........

[K5054NZ]

Hi all!

Right. Someone needs to send me a cookbook, knitting needles, paint-by-numbers kit, something. I just can't do plastic anymore.

Not after this: http://www.arcair.com/Gal8/7601-7700/gal7617-Fw-190-kontiveis/00.shtm.


Oh.

My.

God.

I just can't do it. This guy's too good. I bought a Tamiya 1:48 D-9 the other day, and after seeing this I don't think I'm man enough to tackle it.

Unless, of course, he just scratchbuilt or restored an actual 1:1 Dora. In that case, I want flying shots. I demand them pics. 

[Jschmus]

Well, it is 1/24.  That's pretty big, and the detailing's got to be easier that working in 1/72, or 1/48 even.  It's a gorgeous model, no doubt, but I'm not hanging up my stuff just yet.  If anything, I doubt this fellow would have thought up a kitbash like your Mosquito replica of a couple weeks ago.

[sotoolslinger]

Yeah that's ....okay If you are a member of ARC or any number of other forums you can see pages of stuff like that though. If you build enough of the same stuff over and over and over again you are bound to build skill. Now this guy has definitly got talent to go along with his skill but if he wants to impress me lets see him build the Lanky Stang , a SuperBolt or one of Retro_seventies profiles.Or any unnamed number of other things here

[Roger the Cabin Boy]

Ah.  Yet another ultra-competitve Luftwaffe type, eh.  When there's 100 years+ of world aviation history to choose from...  I noticed how he's sooo intensely hung up on absolutely precise colours / colors.      Even I know they slapped on whatever they could find by 1945. 

An added advantage of doing WIF (and for that matter, my sun-bleached real world air forces) is that NONE OF THAT MATTERS.....

[B777LR]

I have to agree, nothing special there.

I would be impressed if it were a this detailed DI-6 / TsKB-11 And why do we never see any super detailed Handley Page Heyfords? Or J-10s? Or MiG-19? Or P-59? YB-49? IAI Arava?

[Excalibur]

Some may call it sour grapes on my part but to be honest I find alot of those 'perfect" builds...well too perfect. Anyone who has ever seen a war bird for real will tell you there is faults and blemishes all over it. Not to mention as Roger the Cabin Boy has pointed out by 1945 these planes would have been painted in any colours they could find including I imagine a heavy dose of very imperfect hand painting as well. It's the same as people who studiously measure out D Day invasion stripes I have seen several photos of D Day planes and quite often they are crooked! Lets face it the ground crew were not about to waste time measuring anything for things which were potential targets!

So my point yes its a nice build, but that is also the problem it lacks attitude. 

[entlim]

Some may call it sour grapes on my part but to be honest I find alot of those 'perfect" builds...well too perfect. Anyone who has ever seen a war bird for real will tell you there is faults and blemishes all over it. Not to mention as Roger the Cabin Boy has pointed out by 1945 these planes would have been painted in any colours they could find including I imagine a heavy dose of very imperfect hand painting as well. It's the same as people who studiously measure out D Day invasion stripes I have seen several photos of D Day planes and quite often they are crooked! Lets face it the ground crew were not about to waste time measuring anything for things which were potential targets!

So my point yes its a nice build, but that is also the problem it lacks attitude. 

In terms of D day stripes- yes it was often applied with either a 6 inch brush or in bigger cases a broom- so definitely not line perfect

[Weaver]

Said it before but it's worth repeating: I've got a photo of a deckload of A-7 Corsairs (modern aircraft in peacetime) and every bloody one is painted slightly differently...

The guy who built this 190 undoubtedly has a huge amount of talent, but do you know what he didn't have to do? He didn't have to design the plane before he built it......

[Ian the Kiwi Herder]

Superb modelling, but rather than see it as 'setting the bar too high' see it as an inspiration..... I felt the same way when I saw my first Verlinden brochure.... something to aspire to !!

Ian

[B777LR]

Speaking of nice eyecatching models, that F-4 Phantom posed in that striking pose, taking off, is a true beuty! And it isnt even the 50th model built in this pose! (lots of modelers have done large scale Fw-190s with open panels, that including me)

Oh, and Zac, that P-40 is nice!

[K5054NZ]

Haha I was only joking guys! I was impressed but I'm not about to give up my only hobby just cos this guy built a PERFECT Me-190L-15.

Thomas, I'm just going over to check it out *blushes*........I hope they were nice to me on the ARC forum........

[sotoolslinger]

Yeah go look at Barry's new post on the SuperBolt. Then you'll give up modeling

[Excalibur]

Superb modelling, but rather than see it as 'setting the bar too high' see it as an inspiration..... I felt the same way when I saw my first Verlinden brochure.... something to aspire to !!

Ian

But I actually don't like way it looks! It's overdone to me.

[Excalibur]

Superb modelling, but rather than see it as 'setting the bar too high' see it as an inspiration..... I felt the same way when I saw my first Verlinden brochure.... something to aspire to !!

Ian

But I actually don't like way it looks! It's overdone to me.

Each to their own, if you like it great, if not also great.

What is all this loser talk whenever someone sees a fantastic model and then whinges about giving up? 

Look, it doesn't matter what you do in life, there will always be someone better at it than you.  Once you grasp that simple fact, it should be easier.  If you can't, then you'd best not bother getting out of bed.

I'm with Lee here, I want to be as good as I can be, but I don't loose heart when I see an uber build somewhere. I know there will always be someone better than me, be it in the whole or in some aspect of modelling, be it assembly/painting or whatever.

Superb modelling, but rather than see it as 'setting the bar too high' see it as an inspiration..... I felt the same way when I saw my first Verlinden brochure.... something to aspire to !!

Ian

That ties in to my support for Lee's view Ian, I get inspired when I see work like that. I want to know how they did it, and what I need to learn and what techniques I must master to achieve it.

This is a hobby, we do it becuase we want to and because we gain enjoyment out of it, if this fella gets his jollies from an uber build like that, then fair play. If you get pleasure out of painting a pink strikemaster, good on you too.

just my two penneth of ill-informed opinion.



Duncan

Yes it is a personal taste thing and thats fine. I'm not bothered really, but what does annoy me at times is these people who do make the Uber builds don't respect the folks who prefer to build their kits in a different way, whether it be the guys who don't care about seam lines or the ones who don't always worry about getting the colours or markings precise or just the guys who like to build and aren't too fussed about the results. It's no different to people who play sport, just because you may never play for your nation or at an elite level doesn't mean you still can't have fun playing all the same.

[sequoiaranger]

There are some people that just have WAAAY too much time on their hands, and concentrate on excruciating detail. I do love to see a highly-detailed model, but that's not why *I* am modeling. I have gone back and forth over just how much time and effort I should put into my models. I have won National IPMS "honorable mentions", but would never actually WIN any event---too much time invested. I am not out to DUPLICATE a mechanism part for part, but rather evoke a reaction of "oh wow!" from myself and any others who might be so "perverted" as to dream up "new" aircraft.

I have gotten back into the hobby after a layoff of some twenty years, am WORKING ON a new whif, and am debating even using an airbrush (I need a new one, or just forget it!). I really enjoyed my high-school days of hand-brushing my models. Lemme repeat--**ENJOYED**. If I can be less "critical" of myself, I can produce likeable (no--LOVEABLE) models of slightly-lesser-than-before quality and not agonize over small flaws and details. If modeling gets to be too much of a chore, than one shouldn't do it.

So have FUN with whatever you do!