Sovietise it!!!!

[Sauragnmon]

hey pudding...

In Soviet Russia, Charger Drives You!

I could see a Sovietized Charger or a T-Bird or such, that would look pretty damn cool.

Alright everybody, get your bashing hammers and wave threateningly now!  Bashers of the world, UNITE!

[Taiidantomcat]

I was thinking this morning (cried of 'Did it hurt?' from the peanut gallery) about Sovietised cars. Now Russian car makers often turned to Fiat for help, but whatif the ruskies wanted to porve they could make a car which out performed and was more stylish than those from the US? So I was thinking in essecne, what would the soviet answer to a 64 Mustang look liken 

I'm planning to sovietize a car for the GB, but I'm not telling you what. It's not a Mustang however.

That's pretty darn clever 

[B777LR]

I was thinking this morning (cried of 'Did it hurt?' from the peanut gallery) about Sovietised cars. Now Russian car makers often turned to Fiat for help, but whatif the ruskies wanted to porve they could make a car which out performed and was more stylish than those from the US? So I was thinking in essecne, what would the soviet answer to a 64 Mustang look liken 

I'm planning to sovietize a car for the GB, but I'm not telling you what. It's not a Mustang however.

That's pretty darn clever 

Soviet Jaguar E-type?

[Sisko]

I have offered to be the moderator on this build and I will formalise the rules soon. It is just a case of when it fits in with the GB schedule.

[Weaver]

Sovietized AJ-37 Viggen....

Add a stonking great dogtooth to the wing, add some fences to wing and canards. Ditch the thrust reverser, add a MiG-23 exhaust nozzle, change the cockpit for a more MiG-23/27 style one. Loose the Oerlikons and gain a Gsh-23 gunpack, MiG-23 style tail and folding ventral fin. Make the intakes more like a MiG-23's and then modify the undercart to be more like a MiG-31's.....



Duncan

Neat idea, and of course, Mr. Eastwood originally wanted a Viggen to play Firefox in the movie......


I've just done some bit swapping with an Airfix Viggen and an Academy Flogger (both 1/72nd) and come to the following conclusions:

Replace the pylons with wrap-around wing-fences/pylons like the Su-17 ones,

Add R-60 pylons under the intakes,

It IS possible to add the Flogger intake splitters to the Viggen outers with a bit of trimming,

Replace the canards with the Flogger's tailplanes: this look REALLY good! 

The tail/ventral fin mods you suggest work perfectly,

The Flogger exhaust nozzle still looks a bit lost in the Viggen's tailpipe. You could fudge it but the elegant solution would just be a bigger nozzle: there's nothing actually unique about the Flogger's.

The Flogger canopy is way too small to fit the Viggen. An Su-17 one pretty much fits, but it looks so like the Viggen's that it's hardly worth the effort. What I'd suggest is simply painting traditional 3-piece windscreen lines on the Viggen's one-piece screen. A few extra coats of paint should make them stand up enough to match the other canopy frames (at least in 1/72nd scale).

[GTX]

Sovietized AJ-37 Viggen....

Add a stonking great dogtooth to the wing, add some fences to wing and canards. Ditch the thrust reverser, add a MiG-23 exhaust nozzle, change the cockpit for a more MiG-23/27 style one. Loose the Oerlikons and gain a Gsh-23 gunpack, MiG-23 style tail and folding ventral fin. Make the intakes more like a MiG-23's and then modify the undercart to be more like a MiG-31's.....



Duncan

Love this idea!

Regards,

Greg

[Taiidantomcat]

I have offered to be the moderator on this build and I will formalise the rules soon. It is just a case of when it fits in with the GB schedule.

Thanks Sisko 

[Weaver]

Take the JB/Airfix Saladin APC, scratch up a BRDM-style boat-shaped prow on it, use putty to "bulge" the rear door BMP-style and fit a conical turret with MGs in it (BRDM-2 style if it'll fit, MTLB style if it won't). If you can find/make some, you might also put AT-3 missiles and/or an 82mm recoilless on the side of the turret and/or the rear ring.

[Sisko]

Rules :-

1.Take any kit of a western built subject and make it look like it is a soviet built copy.

2. It can be land sea air, and in any scale it doesn't matter. Hell you can make something for the sea become a land vehicle. As long as it looks soviet.

3. Kitbash and scratchbuilt to your hearts content. What every it takes to make that boring F-16 into something tractor like.

4. The build will go for around 6 months. (due to the fact that kitbashing and scratchbuilding are involved)

5. Finished posts will be displayed in the usual manner and we will pick a first and second place which will get a kit from my stash. probably something I don't want to build any more. Your not getting my good stuff Bwhahahahahahahah

Here endeth the rules

[puddingwrestler]

Aye, but when begineth the festivities commerade? I have a disused tractor plant in minsk crewed by unwed teenage mothers standing by awaiting my commands!

[Sauragnmon]

Severomorsk Shipyards, ready to work.  Za Rodinu!

[Taiidantomcat]

Excellent! 

[Daryl J.]

F7U Cutlass from Lindberg kit with a fuselage extension in front of air intakes, cockpit moved a bit more rearward, more Soviet nose, wing fences....gotta have those....(!!!), and a rear fuselage added a la DH-116 with a conventional T-tail and some Tu-154-like bullet fairings on the vertical tail.   NMF over anti-flash white.   Built under the premise that there were moles in the Vought design group who delivered plans of early prototypes for the USAF (not Navy....gotta have a reason for the short nose gear) to the USSR who engineered out stability shortcomings of the odd design.  Prototypes built and tested but production cancelled.

Second Soviet 'Cutlass' based off the Hobbycraft F7U-3/3M.   Alternate tail, other engines, etc.   Fictional AA missiles too.


Daryl J.

[Edit]:   Liked the idea enough that they were ordered......

[Daryl J.]

F-4J Phantom reverse engineering with tweaks:

Wing leading edge brought forward about a scale 18" or so towards the intakes but kept at the same point at the wing fold increasing the wing sweep. Wing fences added at the wing fold; wing fold eliminated.  Outer wing tip no longer bent up, has an ogival curve to it rather than the blocky wing tip.    Vertical tail has chord decreased, vertical height increased, with air intake brought forward.    Horizontal tail has less anhedral.   IRST ball.   


Daryl J., thinking aloud again.

[Stitch_83]

Soviet - developed Mikoyan-Antonov MiA-10 Warthogski - developed from stolen US prototype plans, fitted with radar for true Siberian all-weather and night attack capability, twin GsH 23mm cannon and some other improvements..... I'm up for this!

Nice idea! 

Few other tweaks:

30mm GSh-30-2 twin-barrelled gun, as per the Hind-E. I know the Russians do 6-barrelled Gatlings too as Saur suggested, but the trouble is that they look exactly like the US ones, whereas the twin-barrelled gun is more distinctively "Soviet".

Twin-up all the wheels: the Soviets were big on rough-field ability at the time the A-10 was new, so longer struts with twin wheels or tandem bogies, with bigger fairings to accomodate them. they could have small pointy radomes on the front for ASM guidance.

Solid rear canopy and spine, like an Su-25K (the two-seat airframe with one seat plus nav-attack avionics). Just looks more Russian.

Lose the re-fuelling receptacle when re-profiling the nose for the radar. Add a Tornado-style retractable probe on one side of the forward fuselage.

I just like the look of the 23mm cannon - I was thinking of doubling it up - one set on either side of the fuselage!  I'd also toyed with the idea of mounting the engines ontop of the wing - however that would expose the compressor faces and exhausts, the very reason Fairchild mounted them where they are....  I agree though, it would look more Russian like that, so I might just do it for fun! 

Also I was gona leave off the IFR system completely and plead the Harrier's case of being able to operate closer to the front lines with rough-field capability.

The U/C adjustments I hadn't thought of.  Adjustments to the MLG housings are beyond my modeling ability methinks so I may just alter the NG and hope for the best lol

I may also move the rear canopy frame forward (i.e. have it solid up to about the halfway mark), to make it more enclosed and industrial.  Or perhaps add another frame line forward....  All ideas in my mind and thanks to all for your feedback - makes me more inspired to do it!   

Thanks
Stuart