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Wasp Major and Tornado(radial engine) Aircrafts: XF8B, XP-71, XP-69, XP-72

Started by ysi_maniac, July 11, 2008, 07:49:08 AM

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kitnut617

Quote from: elmayerle on July 30, 2008, 09:49:20 AM
Well, since NAA is verified as having done preliminary layout work on a R2800-powered P-51 version, how about one with a R4360 and an extended rear fuselage (say from the F-82) for wieght and balance purposes?

Now there's an idea   :wub:  Are there any 3-views of the R-2800 P-51 Evan?  But what about an F-82 with R-4360's anyway?
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kitnut617

Quote from: ysi_maniac on July 30, 2008, 10:18:55 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on July 29, 2008, 11:41:07 AM
Quote from: ysi_maniac on July 29, 2008, 11:19:11 AM
BTW, collecting bits and info to make an 'In service' Goodyear Corsair
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What scale?  I have a 1/72 kit of one in the stash made by Xotic Kits and I believe MPM or Special Hobby do a 1/72 kit too.

Can you post shots of sprues, please?

I'll have to try and find it Carlos, I got all the boxes in from the container which have my stash in but which box it's in I don't know.
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famvburg


     Not really meaning to butt in, but in an Air Enthusiast from about 7 or 8 years ago, there are drawings & info on I believe some NAA R-1830 powered P-51H proposals & sometime back, somehow I got a 3 view of an R-2800 powered P-51D proposed by John Crocker (or is it Cocker?) for air racing. I, too would like to see NAA's R-2800 info.

Quote from: kitnut617 on July 30, 2008, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: elmayerle on July 30, 2008, 09:49:20 AM
Well, since NAA is verified as having done preliminary layout work on a R2800-powered P-51 version, how about one with a R4360 and an extended rear fuselage (say from the F-82) for wieght and balance purposes?

Now there's an idea   :wub:  Are there any 3-views of the R-2800 P-51 Evan?  But what about an F-82 with R-4360's anyway?

kitnut617

I lucked out Carlos, second box I looked in.  I can't remember though if the large bits were on a sprue, I've been fondling plastic I think  :lol: :


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elmayerle

I may be in error there as to the engine, but I believe Scott had something on it in one issue of APR.  On the racing side, I will admit to some doodles of a F-82 re-engined with R4360s and cut-down, or otherwise streamlined, canopies.
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elmayerle

Just an outre thought, how about a Fw-190D or Ta-152 airframe with a R4360 installed?
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famvburg

       IIRC, BMW made a 4-row radial similar to the -4360, the 802 maybe.



Quote from: elmayerle on July 31, 2008, 07:33:45 PM
Just an outre thought, how about a Fw-190D or Ta-152 airframe with a R4360 installed?

jcf

Quote from: famvburg on August 01, 2008, 05:41:41 AM
       IIRC, BMW made a 4-row radial similar to the -4360, the 802 maybe.

BMW 802 was a two-bank 18-cylinder radial.

BMW 803 was the 28-cylinder engine and weighed a whopping 6,490 lbs, a good 3,000 lbs heavier than a basic R-4360. :o

Jon

ysi_maniac

OK, modified title to include XP-69: Another BigBeautifulFighter.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5042.0/highlight,xp-69.html
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Mossie

How about a Tempest or Sea Fury?  The extra power might need some airframe changes, but should give some extra grunt.
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famvburg


      There are some Reno Air Racer Sea Furies using the R-4360 & other than the forward fuselage & racing mods, I don't tink the result would be much different that having a Corsair go from F4U to F2G.


Quote from: Mossie on September 29, 2009, 06:02:46 AM
How about a Tempest or Sea Fury?  The extra power might need some airframe changes, but should give some extra grunt.

famvburg


     Why is the XP-69 included? It is (well, was supposed to be) a large fighter, but not R-4360 powered & really didn't even have a 'big' engine, only 2160 CID, I guess about the same a R/R Griffon & also comparable power. It may have had 42 cylinders, but at 2160 cubes, they weren't big.


Quote from: ysi_maniac on September 29, 2009, 05:27:32 AM
OK, modified title to include XP-69: Another BigBeautifulFighter.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5042.0/highlight,xp-69.html
:thumbsup:

famvburg

Quote from: famvburg on July 30, 2008, 10:38:03 AM

     Not really meaning to butt in, but in an Air Enthusiast from about 7 or 8 years ago, there are drawings & info on I believe some NAA R-1830 powered P-51H proposals & sometime back, somehow I got a 3 view of an R-2800 powered P-51D proposed by John Crocker (or is it Cocker?) for air racing. I, too would like to see NAA's R-2800 info.

Quote from: kitnut617 on July 30, 2008, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: elmayerle on July 30, 2008, 09:49:20 AM
Well, since NAA is verified as having done preliminary layout work on a R2800-powered P-51 version, how about one with a R4360 and an extended rear fuselage (say from the F-82) for wieght and balance purposes?

Now there's an idea   :wub:  Are there any 3-views of the R-2800 P-51 Evan?  But what about an F-82 with R-4360's anyway?

kitnut617

Quote from: Mossie on September 29, 2009, 06:02:46 AM
How about a Tempest or Sea Fury?  The extra power might need some airframe changes, but should give some extra grunt.

High Planes do a number of Sea Fury Reno Racers Simon, got a few of the kits myself.  

http://www.hiplanes.com/new/1_72_racers/72_racers_kit_list.htm

Sea Fury 'Furias' uses the R4360 but 'Critical Mass' uses the R3350.  IIRC they use four blade Douglas Invader props
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Mossie

I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.