A-3 (A3D) Skywarrior and B-66 Destroyer

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ytown2010

Quote from: kitbasher on December 25, 2008, 02:16:07 AM
Quote from: ytown2010 on December 24, 2008, 04:35:29 PM
what about the engines? could the KA-3E (my designation for my "Northwest Republic" thread) run GE CF34-10E turbofans in place of the J57s? this would justify me keeping the KA-3 on carrier decks in the 21st Century.
Why not just use tooled up S-3 Vikings?  ;D ;D
the S-3 doesn't exist in my alternate universe.

Dork the kit slayer

Quote from: kitbasher on December 25, 2008, 02:16:07 AM
Quote from: ytown2010 on December 24, 2008, 04:35:29 PM
what about the engines? could the KA-3E (my designation for my "Northwest Republic" thread) run GE CF34-10E turbofans in place of the J57s? this would justify me keeping the KA-3 on carrier decks in the 21st Century.
Why not just use tooled up S-3 Vikings?  ;D ;D

yep change the tail ,slim down the body and wings some nice retrograde engine pods...........................mmm Skywarrior :lol: :o ;D :wacko: :huh: :party:
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ytown2010

here is a profile of a KA-3E belonging to Tactical Aerial Refueling Squadron (VAK) 300. this was a collaborative effort between me and Mav. i drew the engine based off of a S-3 engine and did the preliminaries on the aircraft itself. i sent the pictures of the engine and the KA-3E to Mav for the finish work.

and a low-viz:

Jschmus

I couldn't find the exact thread, but I recall there was some discussion about whether or not the Essex class could operate the Skywarrior.  The consensus was that they could, but photographic evidence was in short supply.  I found this last night, courtesy of the "Wall Photos" from the National Naval Aviation Museum on Facebook.  The carrier in question is the Bon Homme Richard.  Also of note is the presence in the photo of F11F Tigers, of which there seem to be few photos on carrier decks.
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Logan Hartke

Very neat photo, Jschmus.  I love the way the Whale looks on the "little" Essex deck.  As for the F11F, I've seen a number of photos of it on the USS Ranger when my grandfather served on it.

By the way, what are the men on deck spelling out?

Cheers,

Logan

Jschmus

#20
It's kanji, and the characters spell out "Congratulations" to the Japanese Crown Prince Akihito, on the birth of his son, the current Crown Prince Naruhito.

(Further research indicates Naruhito was born in February, 1960, but apparently his birth wasn't formally proclaimed until May.)
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simmie

Not having a scanner is a problem here.

In the McDonnell Douglas Putnam Vol.1, there are photos of B66 Destroyers involved in engine trials with the P&W TF33 Turbofan and the GE CJ805-3 turbojet and the CJ805-23 aft fan.

Love your idea, and Mavericks art.
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philp

If I ever get my hands on an Italeri B-66 will have to do a RAF version.  Think Mav did a profile for me a while ago.
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PR19_Kit

Does anyone know under what conditions the tail bumper thingie under the tail of a Skywarrior deploys please? See piccie below for what I mean.

I had thought it came down with the landing gear but I've seen pics of them retracted with the aircraft on the ground. I've NOT found a piccie of them, landing with it retracted though so perhaps it can be raised independently of the gear.

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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

kitnut617

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 13, 2013, 07:21:40 AM
Does anyone know under what conditions the tail bumper thingie under the tail of a Skywarrior deploys please? See piccie below for what I mean.

Maybe in a tail heavy situation Kit like no fuel in the tanks (or people in the front)---- I've seen many an airliner at the airport have a strut placed under the tail end before things got un-loaded
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PR19_Kit

I don't think it's a strut Robert, I think it's a tail bumper.

Every single pic I've found of an A-3 on approach has the bumper/strut extended, but some pics taken on the ground has it retracted. I thought originally it was part of the hook assembly but you can see in the pic I posted that it can be extended with the hook retracted.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

McColm

An idea of mine is to use the parts from the Airfix S -3 Viking and add them to a  B-66 including the engines.
The left over parts from the Viking will get  a pair of turboprops and be turned into a civvie airliner .

kitnut617

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 13, 2013, 01:37:13 PM
I don't think it's a strut Robert, I think it's a tail bumper.

Every single pic I've found of an A-3 on approach has the bumper/strut extended, but some pics taken on the ground has it retracted. I thought originally it was part of the hook assembly but you can see in the pic I posted that it can be extended with the hook retracted.

Sorry, didn't explain myself properly.  I agree that it's a tail bumper but then when sitting around on the ground/deck empty and was tail heavy as it seems to appear in your pic, it's extended and used to stop the aircraft tilting back.  It looks like it has a small wheel too ---
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kitnut617

Quote from: McColm on October 14, 2013, 12:47:08 AM
An idea of mine is to use the parts from the Airfix S -3 Viking 

Erm!, have a look at reply #17 in this thread ---
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: kitnut617 on October 14, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 13, 2013, 01:37:13 PM
I don't think it's a strut Robert, I think it's a tail bumper.

Every single pic I've found of an A-3 on approach has the bumper/strut extended, but some pics taken on the ground has it retracted. I thought originally it was part of the hook assembly but you can see in the pic I posted that it can be extended with the hook retracted.

Sorry, didn't explain myself properly.  I agree that it's a tail bumper but then when sitting around on the ground/deck empty and was tail heavy as it seems to appear in your pic, it's extended and used to stop the aircraft tilting back.  It looks like it has a small wheel too ---

Ahah, gotcha now. Yes, that makes sense, a sort of dual use device then? The Hase kit doesn't have a wheel on the end of the triangular bit, it looks like a tiny arrestor hook actually. I think I'll glue the thing flush then, that version has enough bumps and things sticking out of it already!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit