C-141 Star Lifter

[PR19_Kit]

Oh yes, I recall you asking that on your own thread.

I don't know of any probe and drogue tankers in 1/200 sadly.

I found I've got a vacform C-141B in The Loft, and it's 1/72. It's MASSIVE! 

[jcf]

The sole civil Starlifter visiting Australia in both its original markings and in NASA livery.

http://www.lockheed.adastron.com/oddities/starlifter.htm

[PR19_Kit]

Cor, I didn't know there were any civvie -141s. It looks pretty smart too.

I recall DrawDecals did a sheet of one in FedEx at one time, and that looked great.

I ought to build mine at some stage, it's pretty impressive as a model.

The NASA scheme looks REALLY good too! 

[Captain Canada]

Very nice ! Looks good in both schemes, neither of which I've seen before. Cheers !

[The Rat]

Wow, someone needs to do decals for that. 

[sandiego89]

If you are ever in the mid-Atlantic area of the United States, the Air Mobility Command Museum at Dover Air Force Base is a great way to see a great array of "trash haulers". They have the first C-141, one of only 4 that did not get the stretch and a C-141B that is open every day for walking around in. Also the C-5 and lots of others.

Need more Whif Starlifters on here Hmmm maybe a KC, Launcher, other users, or other derivatives....

[kitnut617]

I had this idea of 'what-If' Boeing won the contest. I've match up the 'A' with a C-135 fuselage and it's about the same length and shape, I'm thinking of switching the C-135 wing to the top of the C-135 fuselage but have it in anhedral, and then use the engine nacelles of the 'A'.  It's a work in progress sort of thing with no rush to it so who knows when it'll get done   

[PR19_Kit]

Aren't the engines of the C-141B the same as the As?

IIRC they're both TF33P-7s, military versions of the JT3-D7s that the DC8-63s had.

[kitnut617]

Combat Models (USA) does both variants in 1/72 vacuform and I have both of them. And the nacelles look identical Kit.

[sandiego89]

Aren't the engines of the C-141B the same as the As?

IIRC they're both TF33P-7s, military versions of the JT3-D7s that the DC8-63s had.

Same engines on all Star Lifter versions, but I think Kitnut was just saying he was musing a build with the C-135 wings and the C-141 engines.

I am surprised by the wide array of nacelles that the TF-33 and JT3-D's used between the 707, DC-8, C-141, B-52 and KC/C/E/RC-135 etc. As I became painfully aware from my recent B-47 WHIF, Some had straight nacelles, some cut just aft of the compressor section etc.

[kitnut617]

Aren't the engines of the C-141B the same as the As?

IIRC they're both TF33P-7s, military versions of the JT3-D7s that the DC8-63s had.

Same engines on all Star Lifter versions, but I think Kitnut was just saying he was musing a build with the C-135 wings and the C-141 engines.

I was thinking of using the C-135 fuselage too --

[PR19_Kit]

I am surprised by the wide array of nacelles that the TF-33 and JT3-D's used between the 707, DC-8, C-141, B-52 and KC/C/E/RC-135 etc. As I became painfully aware from my recent B-47 WHIF, Some had straight nacelles, some cut just aft of the compressor section etc.

Indeed so, all the colours in all the sizes. 

My faves are the -7s that the DC8-62/63s use, very similar to the nacelles on the C-141.

The airliner people call them 'Tube engines' to distinguish from the earlier 'Side Exhaust' engines on the DC8-50 series.

[kerick]

In 1974 USAF tested a C-5 launching a Minuteman missile by dropping it out the back ramp. What about whiffing a C-141 launching something like a Poseidon or Pershing missile.

[kitnut617]

I am surprised by the wide array of nacelles that the TF-33 and JT3-D's used between the 707, DC-8, C-141, B-52 and KC/C/E/RC-135 etc. As I became painfully aware from my recent B-47 WHIF, Some had straight nacelles, some cut just aft of the compressor section etc.

Indeed so, all the colours in all the sizes. 

My faves are the -7s that the DC8-62/63s use, very similar to the nacelles on the C-141.

The airliner people call them 'Tube engines' to distinguish from the earlier 'Side Exhaust' engines on the DC8-50 series.

In my latest Air-Britain Aviation World (winter 2019) there's an article about the Xian Y-20. The nacelles they're using on it at the moment look very similar to the C-141 nacelles. But they're actually copies of the nacelles which are on the Il-76.

[PR19_Kit]

Indeed! I noticed the similarity of the Il-76 nacelles to the 'Tube Engines' when one came to RIAT some years ago.

Of course they were totally independently designed and manufactured by Soloviev....................... 

The Wiki page on the Soloviev engine says '.....and had specifications similar to those of Western analogues such as Pratt & Whitney JT8D....'

Pratt & Whitney must have copied Soloviev's design I'm sure.............