Getting Agressive - The Aggressor and Adversary Group Build

[nev]

This was talked about in this thread

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20083.0/highlight,aggressor.html

but AFAIK, it was never formally proposed in here.  So here I am 

Ian first mentioned it, so I nominate him to be co-mod with me (if approved by the masses)

[Taiidantomcat]

Plus one vote here  :thumbsup:have a bunch of Tomcat ideas, in cool "what-if" aggressor schemes that haven't been done on a Tomcat.

[Mossie]

Aggressor GB.  Lots of interesting schemes available & you can invent your own too.  Basically, anything that comes under DACT.  US, Canadian & Japanese aggressor aircraft are the most obvious, but what if other countries went the full monty with schemes?  You don't have to of course, many nations simply make do with a splash of colour on the fin or wings to differentiate themselves as 'enemies', that's fine too.  Some air forces, such as the RAF, have been known to use special or experimental schemes when participating in exercises.

Conversions are possible too, there have been many attempts to convert other helicopters to look like Hinds, what about other aircraft?  The USN uses paint tricks to simulate other aircraft & has even gone as far as painting a full silhouette of a MiG-19 onto an A-4.

Why leave it to aircraft?  Ships can be painted up to represent those of an enemy, even mocked up weapons to better represent what you're fighting against.  Tanks too, enemy paint schemes, with a re-jigged turret so it looks like something else?

How about it???

Simon.

[Mossie]

Inspiration!  Fell free to add your own pics as always.

USN Aggressor F-14


USN Aggressor F-5's


Aggressor Huey


F-16 Arctic Aggressor


Luftwaffe F-4 Phantoms on exercise, minimalist Aggressor markings


JASDF F-15 Aggressor


It's not a new thing either, Spitfire with white 'enemy' identity stripe during 'Exercise Spartan' in 1943, a major allied exercise leading up to D-Day.  Other aircraft involved such as Typhoon's were similarily marked.

[Taiidantomcat]

I love this idea  Gets my vote. cool spitfire, learn something new everyday 

[TsrJoe]

id be up for building something for this too, an excuse to model that 'blackwashed' Finnish Hornet seen in an Ilmavoimat promotional clip (theres also a John Lacey profile of same showing how neat it looks too!)

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,18207.msg304969/highlight,aggressor.html#msg304969

there were also numerous 'wargames' markings applied throughout the aviation period, pre, wartime and postwar types all being marked up as 'aggressor' types, i recall there being some pretty colouful examples too prior to dedicated acm training squadrons, hmm, just a thought, theres a PR.19 Spitfire that fit with this theme too!

cheers, joe

[Gondor]

Love the JASDF F-15 Aggressor scheme, just don't fancy painting it though 

Gondor

[Mossie]

Two Bobs do some 1/48 & 1/32 sets for JASDF Aggressors.  The stencils are masked off on the real aircraft giving that splinter effect.  The Two Bobs decals have the grey surrounds so you don't have to paint them.  I'm not sure where to source 1/72 decals from, I think Hasegawa might have done a kit in a JASDF Agressor scheme but I'm not certain.

[philp]

If I ever get my hands on a Revell 72nd F-22 will be doing the Arctic Agressor.  Already have the decals.

[GTX]

How about some Soviet Aggressors - e.g. MiG-21 painted to look like a EE Lightning or Su-27 to look like a F-14?

Regards,

Greg

[Taiidantomcat]

How about some Soviet Aggressors - e.g. MiG-21 painted to look like a EE Lightning or Su-27 to look like a F-14?

Regards,

Greg

I was thinking the same thing... need to find stuff that isn't too gray though... shouldn't be a problem for the above examples though. 

[ChernayaAkula]

<...> MiG-21 painted to look like a EE Lightning  <...>

Splendid idea! Will need grey triangles on and under the wings to give the MiG's delta wings that distinctive Lightning look. Sort of like the A-4-turned-MiG-17 - only reversed.



Regarding Soviet Aggressors, here are three I found on ARC.

First two by "Trigger" (CLICK!):

MiG-29 posing as F-16



MiG-29 posing as an F/A-18:



And this one by Oroka (CLICKY!), a Su-27 trying to pass for an F-15 (the star on the inside of the vertical stabs is a stroke of genius!):




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And then there's THIS SITE from Hungary which has a couple of Soviet Fishbeds painted to resemble planes from Pakistan, the US, France, Israel....

[dragon]

Right now I am working on a follow up on my SU-47MKV Caiman.  It has the fuselage of an SU-35 and partial SU-47 wings.  I am leaning to giving it a Flankerized version of the Alaska Air National Guard F-16 Aggressor scheme.  Part of the premise is that this SU-49MK whatever-the-russian-word-is-for-vulture is the reason for that scheme.  Looks okay so far, but it will look a lot more interesting when armed with both NATO and Eastern Bloc armament.....

[Mossie]

The objective is sometimes not to simulate a specific enemy, but just to make your aircraft different enough to identify it as an aggressor, like the Luftwaffe Phantoms & Spitfire above.  The Indian Air Force takes this to extremes, with the tail or portions of the airframe painted in bright patterns of stripes, dots, stars etc, not unlike USAAF Formation birds.

There are plenty of profiles on Wings Palette showing similar markings, have a browse through the pages:
MiG-21: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/f/14/72/0
MiG-29: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww4/f/39/72/0

MiG-29's with brightly painted tails


MiG-21 preserved with pink Aggressor markings (take note Rad!)

[Daryl J.]

Y'know, the Sopwith Pup on floats in blue lozenge could theoretically play the part of a Hansa Brandenburg W-29 couldn't it.   


Daryl J.