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Box Inflation

Started by Weaver, September 29, 2008, 09:17:32 AM

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Nick

The point about big boxes and empty space might explain the Hobbyboss trick of having a moulded plastic holder for the sprues and main components. It looks better than opening a huge Revell Lightning kit to find the actual sprue takes just a third.

In the paper last week an MP has written a report on how the push for children to join organised activities for all their spare time can lead them to be less capable at managing their own lives as adults. When everything is arranged for people they can't learn how to do things for themselves. Same goes for modelmaking.

Captain Canada

On the other hand, judging by the size of the carrier on the box painting, they should have been able to fit about 6 Westland Whirlwind HAS mk.22's into one Airfix box of said helo....;-)

CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?

Weaver

Holy thread revival Boxman!

In a glaring example of box inflation, I just managed to get FOUR Airfix Fouga Magisters in ONE of the recent re-issue boxes. :rolleyes:

"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

kitbasher

Have you ever compared the size of box that early renditions of the Airfix Halifax came in with the current box?  Some inflation.

Have you ever compared the size of box that early renditions of the Airfix Halifax came in with the Revel Halifax III box?  Hyperinflation.

Yes I know they are different kits, but hey, that's a big box!
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zenrat

Anyone opened a 1/72 Eduard Bf110?
Now that's a big box.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on December 23, 2015, 09:43:28 PM
Anyone opened a 1/72 Eduard Bf110?
Now that's a big box.

Yup with a lot of parts.

I have two lines of thought regarding box size inflation. The first is that they just have a series of standard boxes and that is it. The Revell approach ? And I wish that they'd get top opening boxes I just abhor those end openers  :banghead:

The second is that as moulding technology has improved then sprues have got larger, thus so have boxes. The companies then use 1 above to put older kits, with smaller sprues and fewer parts in to the new larger boxes ?

Am I over thinking this ? Do I have to much time on my hands ?  ;D :blink:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Gondor

Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2015, 01:01:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 23, 2015, 09:43:28 PM
Anyone opened a 1/72 Eduard Bf110?
Now that's a big box.

Yup with a lot of parts.

I have two lines of thought regarding box size inflation. The first is that they just have a series of standard boxes and that is it. The Revell approach ? And I wish that they'd get top opening boxes I just abhor those end openers  :banghead:

The second is that as moulding technology has improved then sprues have got larger, thus so have boxes. The companies then use 1 above to put older kits, with smaller sprues and fewer parts in to the new larger boxes ?

Am I over thinking this ? Do I have to much time on my hands ?  ;D :blink:

Probably   :rolleyes:

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Weaver

Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2015, 01:01:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 23, 2015, 09:43:28 PM
Anyone opened a 1/72 Eduard Bf110?
Now that's a big box.

Yup with a lot of parts.

I have two lines of thought regarding box size inflation. The first is that they just have a series of standard boxes and that is it. The Revell approach ? And I wish that they'd get top opening boxes I just abhor those end openers  :banghead:

The second is that as moulding technology has improved then sprues have got larger, thus so have boxes. The companies then use 1 above to put older kits, with smaller sprues and fewer parts in to the new larger boxes ?

Am I over thinking this ? Do I have to much time on my hands ?  ;D :blink:

I think Airfix have a policy that each series has a certain minimum box size, so if the Magister is going to be Series 3, it has to go in a Series 3 box or bigger.

Quite how an old-tool Magister ends up Series 3 while a new-tool Gnat ends up Series 1 is a whole other question, of course. The sprues, instructions and decal sheets are all the same size, yet the Gnat is two series down, with a box to match.... :unsure:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

NARSES2

Quote from: Weaver on December 24, 2015, 03:42:44 AM
Quite how an old-tool Magister ends up Series 3

Airfix Magister ? What am I missing ?
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2015, 07:01:51 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 24, 2015, 03:42:44 AM
Quite how an old-tool Magister ends up Series 3

Airfix Magister ? What am I missing ?

Calm down Chris, it's a JET!  ;D

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Captain Canada

I don't get fooled by the box size....I just go straight for the beautiful red colour and the excellent artwork. Sold !

:thumbsup:
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?

NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2015, 07:05:50 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2015, 07:01:51 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 24, 2015, 03:42:44 AM
Quite how an old-tool Magister ends up Series 3

Airfix Magister ? What am I missing ?

Calm down Chris, it's a JET!  ;D


Ah right - Fougia not Miles. I did look in the catalogue at the back of the Airfix Annual but it wasn't listed
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2015, 07:05:50 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2015, 07:01:51 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 24, 2015, 03:42:44 AM
Quite how an old-tool Magister ends up Series 3

Airfix Magister ? What am I missing ?

Calm down Chris, it's a JET!  ;D

You know, one of those up-to-date aircraft that fly at an acceptable speed.....  ;)
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on December 24, 2015, 08:24:25 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2015, 07:05:50 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2015, 07:01:51 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 24, 2015, 03:42:44 AM
Quite how an old-tool Magister ends up Series 3

Airfix Magister ? What am I missing ?

Calm down Chris, it's a JET!  ;D

You know, one of those up-to-date aircraft that fly at an acceptable speed.....  ;)

.... and that don't have propellers.  ;D :lol:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2015, 12:02:48 PM
Quote from: Weaver on December 24, 2015, 08:24:25 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2015, 07:05:50 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2015, 07:01:51 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 24, 2015, 03:42:44 AM
Quite how an old-tool Magister ends up Series 3

Airfix Magister ? What am I missing ?

Calm down Chris, it's a JET!  ;D

You know, one of those up-to-date aircraft that fly at an acceptable speed.....  ;)

.... and that don't have propellers.  ;D :lol:

You could argue and latter this afternoon I might  :cheers: that the turbine blades and all the other whirly things inside a turbojet are propellers of one form or another  :rolleyes:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.